Attention Overgeared DPS in AK

[Jeronlmo]

You just are lucky enough not to have ran with DDs that like to ignore marks and go all out before you even get your +enmity combo then. Go back and read what I've written before saying 'you can hold hate just fine'.



Reading is hard :x see my reply to Jeronlmo. Its like no one even bothers to read past the thread title xD

If you can keep hate when each dd is going all out on a different mob and they pull them away from you while running around in circles, *golf clap*. Grats for being a tryhard and putting up with it I guess. I don't, it takes too long to kill mobs and makes my job more difficult.

Fight or Flight > Circle of Scorn > Flash > Spirits within the mob that should be targeted first (succubus) > Flash > Flash > Flash > Flash. If the DD's do not know the correct kill order you just switch to the mob that they are on, AK only gives you 2 DD's to compete against.

Real hard scrub.

[Amyas]

Fight or Flight > Circle of Scorn > Flash > Spirits within the mob that should be targeted first (succubus) > Flash > Flash > Flash > Flash. If the DD's do not know the correct kill order you just switch to the mob that they are on, AK only gives you 2 DD's to compete against.

Real hard scrub.

LOL! If you can hold hate with just flash and your gimpy aoe damage attack then your dds just plain don't know how to play, simple. (bit hard to 'just switch to mob they're on when they pull them away and run around out of 'voke range, but good on you, you must play with your friends and FC only I hope)

I swear, people just don't know how to read, you're embarrassing yourself.

Are you implying the DPS make it a game to make you look bad because you cannot hold aggro? I have NEVER EVER NEVER done that 0.o

I'm not the one that looks bad in that situation there buddy. You must be one of the ones that ignores marks and does what you want, good for you. Hope you run with your FC or LS, if not, have fun waiting.

[Jeronlmo]

LOL! If you can hold hate with just flash and your gimpy aoe damage attack then your dds just plain don't know how to play, simple.

I swear, people just don't know how to read, you're embarrassing yourself.

Mobs die before hate can be lost, you really need to let the fact that you are bad soak in, your the gimp pld in DF who ditches groups for doing their job.

[Amyas]

Mobs die before hate can be lost, you really need to let the fact that you are bad soak in, your the gimp pld in DF who ditches groups for doing their job.

Please l2read.

Overpower gives enmity = damage x3. With defiance it's damage x6. That's way higher than flash as a Warrior.

I'll keep this in mind, I usually hold off on it because I'm expecting sleeps on those than can be slept (particularly to interrupt the voidwalker summoners, as my single stun isn't enough if dds are all over the place). I'll try starting with that on close groups like the fanatics when I run with the 'big boys' from now on.

[NeoAmon]

LOL! If you can hold hate with just flash and your gimpy aoe damage attack then your dds just plain don't know how to play, simple.

I swear, people just don't know how to read, you're embarrassing yourself.

Please l2tank. You are telling ppl who are on turn 5 to l2p, are u freaking kidding me? You think we need you to tank trash in the first place? lel, I have 4.4k health with food and party buff on a freaking BLM...I will wipe 3-4 trash before you are able to finish half your rotation and you are complaining?

Powered DPS = no bees, no wipes, no 3rd add on last boss..heck first boss would die before he is able to summon a 3rd golem.

[Amyas]

Please l2tank. You are telling ppl who are on turn 5 to l2p, are u freaking kidding me? You think we need you to tank trash in the first place? lel, I have 4.4k health with food and party buff on a freaking BLM...I will wipe 3-4 trash before you are able to finish half your rotation and you are complaining?

Powered DPS = no bees, no wipes, no 3rd add on last boss..heck first boss would die before he is able to summon a 3rd golem.

This thread isn't about you, okay? Is that so hard to understand? Its one thing if the mobs actually do DIE that quickly, but when the dds have all this endgame crap and can't even down the voidwalker summoner before she summons, even if I stun it, they are doing it wrong.
Gotta love how you're jumping on me to defend bad dds.

[NeoAmon]

This thread isn't about you, okay? Is that so hard to understand? Its one thing if the mobs actually do DIE that quickly, but when the dds have all this endgame crap and can't even down the voidwalker summoner before she summons, even if I stun it, they are doing it wrong.
Gotta love how you're jumping on me to defend bad dds.

Nay, you said you would leave if we picked up aggro, that alone made me rage. What worse than AK is a bad tank who leaves cause deaps are doing too much dmg...

Would you like us to count to 10 or 20 before we start auto pilot mode in this headache invoking dungeon? If dps in your group are badly geared and pulling aggro from you, I think you need to review what you are doing. If they are highly geared then play the freaking ping pong and enjoy the 23-25min AK ride.

[Amyas]

Nay, you said you would leave if we picked up aggro, that alone made me rage. What worse than AK is a bad tank who leaves cause deaps are doing too much dmg...

It wasn't 'too much damage' that I'm complaining about chum, you'd know that if you'd bother to read this thread. When I mark a target, I expect it to be burned down, NOT to have to provoke and tomahawk some other trash that should've been slept or on me because a blm wants to tank adds and run away, WHILE STILL ATTACKING IT making any attempts on my part to pull it off them worthless.

I rarely leave dungeons, but if you're a cocky 'overgeared' dd not playing your party role properly, I will.

Attention inferior tanks: learn to tank more than 1 mob at a time regardless of which target your dps decides to hit, you need to learn how to hold multiple mobs that are both being attacked by different dps (cough turn 4 cough)

/grovel So sorry for being 'inferior'.

I know how to hold multiple mobs. l2read.

Take it as a personal challenge to hold aggro at all times regardless of what your team mates do.

No you aren't going to win every time but doing this has kept me improving as a player.


Edit also ignore these jaded dps in here mouthing off about how good they are.

I do usually, especially if there's someone who is new to a dungeon. Actually this is how I've gradually gotten better as War, playing with different people with different play styles in the same dungeon, but a full DL relic'd blm casting before I even pull? And then other 'geared' dds ignoring marks? Bye Bye party. I can only learn so much from running around trying to turn chaos into order, and when no one else is interested in doing so, I can't learn anything.

If you know how to hold multiple mobs that are being attacked then what you're complaining about shouldn't be a problem. Maybe you should learn how to read what you type.

Oh lol. Another non-reader here. So sad that so many people just read what they want to read and continue on railing about something that's not even the issue or topic of the thread without thinking or reading in full.

[Lelouch001]

It wasn't 'too much damage' that I'm complaining about chum, you'd know that if you'd bother to read this thread. When I mark a target, I expect it to be burned down, NOT to have to provoke and tomahawk some other trash that should've been slept or on me because a blm wants to tank adds and run away, WHILE STILL ATTACKING IT making any attempts on my part to pull it off them worthless.

I rarely leave dungeons, but if you're a cocky 'overgeared' dd not playing your party role properly, I will.



/grovel So sorry for being 'inferior'.

I know how to hold multiple mobs. l2read.

If you know how to hold multiple mobs that are being attacked then what you're complaining about shouldn't be a problem. Maybe you should learn how to read what you type.

[Vmage]

/grovel So sorry for being 'inferior'.

I know how to hold multiple mobs. l2read.

if DDs are pulling mobs off of you because they're attacking different mobs, or they aren't all focusing on the one mob you have marked, you do not know how to hold multiple mobs

both tanks are capable of holding multiple mobs with a different DD going all out on each one, if you're unable to do this that is your failing as a tank, not their failing as a DD

furthermore, there are encounters in the game that require you, as a tank, to be able to do just that

you may as well learn how to do it in amdapor before you get to that content and wipe your raid continually because you never learned how