SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

[LiadansWhisper]

So, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but if you're talking about your character on Gilgamesh - not only were you suspended, but you were also hacked. Your name is in my blacklist, and the only people who get in my blacklist are RMT spammers.

So, that might be why you got hit

If that's true, they've done a truly terrible job of stripping her character, because she's got all of her gear on. And she's still in a Free Company.

[Husband]

I'm guessing it may be targeting people with over 1,000,000 gil.

Most of these people are either Win sellers, who sell a win run for 500K and higher, and chest farmers, who have abused the current system to gather High value mats people pay high amount of gil for by joining groups and making people who want to run the dungeon leave so they can continue to harass another goup they will join to continue their chest farming.

I'm sitting with 2,700,000 from selling all the items I bought up from 1.0 just before the shutdown.

You make a fortune if you are a legacy player just selling old materials

I am offended Sir !

[Kyra]

I started game with 2.5 mil, im now on 12 million. This is mainly from selling HQ crafting tools and gear which is piss easy to make and selling some control IV and savage might materias which go for 100k each on hyperion.

Also made a big profit selling HQ vanya silks.

I have about 400 Tier IV cracked and 500 Tier III cracked stockpiled from 1.0.

I was a bit of a hoarder in 1.0 with a mule account and I saved practically everything lol. I can see how new players would struggle to get gil though which is why it boggles my mind that new players come onto a legacy server like hyperion when there are superrich and fully 50 classed players like myself and my friend who can soak up gil (that has a very low generation) from the economy quite easily.

[Spoolx]

Thread lacks common sense. Let's think about this logically.

This economy does not create millions of legit gil. If it did there wouldn't be an economy problem. This means that it should be impossible for a large amount of ppl to make millions of legit gil. There just isn't that much surplus.

The only way for that amount of gil to be created is from rmt. Rmt generate millions of gil, which is transferred to a player, which is then transferred to you when you sell a 2 star item for millions.

Basically "rich" players possess a lot of illegal gil, hence investigation.

Exactly, if even all the people crafting are innocent(which I doubt), the money they are making is coming from RMT one way or another.

[LiadansWhisper]

Exactly, if even all the people crafting are innocent(which I doubt), the money they are making is coming from RMT one way or another.

Yes, but if they're selling their items on the Marketboard, there's absolutely no way for them to tell that someone who purchased gil from RMT is the one purchasing their item. Nor can they prevent that person from buying the item off the Marketboard.

[Spoolx]

Yes, but if they're selling their items on the Marketboard, there's absolutely no way for them to tell that someone who purchased gil from RMT is the one purchasing their item. Nor can they prevent that person from buying the item off the Marketboard.

Well then if they are innocent they will get their accounts back, just like the thousands of people who got hacked and haven't had accounts for two+ weeks.
It's obvious SE is going hard at RMT, a lot of innocent people are getting caught up but I bet a ton of guilty people are too.

[LiadansWhisper]

Well then if they are innocent they will get their accounts back, just like the thousands of people who got hacked and haven't had accounts for two+ weeks.
It's obvious SE is going hard at RMT, a lot of innocent people are getting caught up but I bet a ton of guilty people are too.

Really? Because it hasn't made a damn bit of difference on my server. I'm sitting at 140+ names on my Blacklist with more spammers appearing every day (including today) and I got at least 5-10 /tell spam messages today (as well as the teleporting map hacker bots that are still mining and gathering away happily).

I don't know what they caught, but it sure as hell wasn't the majority of the RMT spammers/botters.

[Spoolx]

A little story about my experience from FFXI.
There were these two players on my server, they both had goldsmithing to 100, and alts with all the crafts to 100.
They had all the best gear but never ran endgame, they paid for everything, these are the kinds of guys that had kraken clubs when they were super rare. People always accused the, of buying Gil and they always denied it said they made their fortune through crafting, they would take screenshots with their alts holding 100's of millions.
When one quit he finally admitted to me that he had spent thousands of dollars on Gil.

The point is everyone claims they make their money legitimately, and I am sure some of them do, however no one is gonna admit cheating and there just isn't enough Gil in circulation to make so many millionaires unless it's from RMT. SE knows this which is why they are banning people. The innocent people will get away free (in a few weeks probably) and the guilty people will get banned.

[Spoolx]

Really? Because it hasn't made a damn bit of difference on my server. I'm sitting at 140+ names on my Blacklist with more spammers appearing every day (including today) and I got at least 5-10 /tell spam messages today (as well as the teleporting map hacker bots that are still mining and gathering away happily).

I don't know what they caught, but it sure as hell wasn't the majority of the RMT spammers/botters.

There are probably 5 Chinese workers for every SE worker banning accounts, the only way they could stop it would be to stop allowing character creation, and no one wants that.

[Anakhu]

It may seem rather stupid at first. However, if they only started to do it one at a time a lot of RMT would catch on and try to shift funds around. By blanketing any over 10 mil ( anything less wouldn't be worth a gil sellers times these days) they can then ensure the gil is frozen, and from there investigate. This is only a up to 3 day ban , i'm sure you will be compensated once cleared of being legit or ilegallly gained. If any large chunks of your gil came from RMT buying , ( even other players who bought, not you specifically) it may even be removed from your character.