Do you think bard desired a nerfing soon.

[MalcolmReynolds]

so lets make the bard not a bard? take away his bow and give him a staff and call him a caster? you should be thankfull that there is a class thats doing damage while repositioning.
and this nerf you speak of? i have heard nothing official, if so please enlighten us all with your inside knowlege.

When did I ever say take away his bow? Quit making shit up and start making actual arguments that aren't based on stupid premises. You don't need a cast time. Nobody said that. But if you're on the move, you shouldn't be doing 100% of your damage while EVERY other class suffers from the same mechanics. Besides, aside from your three songs, you're really just a beefed up archer.

It's quite obvious this is your first MMO (welcome) if you don't think a nerf is coming. Classes that are too powerful get nerfed, classes that are bottom tier get buffs. It's the cycle of an MMO that occurs as an attempt to balance the game. ARR is no exception to this, not if it expects to have a long life.

[Gunba]

It's quite obvious this is your first MMO (welcome) if you don't think a nerf is coming. Classes that are too powerful get nerfed, classes that are bottom tier get buffs. It's the cycle of an MMO that occurs as an attempt to balance the game. ARR is no exception to this, not if it expects to have a long life.

I feel like if you think bard damage is too high you've never looked at a parser.

[fauxpas]

When did I ever say take away his bow? Quit making shit up and start making actual arguments that aren't based on stupid premises. You don't need a cast time. Nobody said that. But if you're on the move, you shouldn't be doing 100% of your damage while EVERY other class suffers from the same mechanics. Besides, aside from your three songs, you're really just a beefed up archer.

It's quite obvious this is your first MMO (welcome) if you don't think a nerf is coming. Classes that are too powerful get nerfed, classes that are bottom tier get buffs. It's the cycle of an MMO that occurs as an attempt to balance the game. ARR is no exception to this, not if it expects to have a long life.

not new to the mmo world, been around the block buddy.. why take away the sole reason why alot of people rolled bard. thats the 1 thing they have that makes them diffrent. dont put every class into a defined sector. jeliousy is not a good color on you man

[MalcolmReynolds]

I feel like if you think bard damage is too high you've never looked at a parser.

It's not strictly the damage. It's also the utility stacked with it. Why take someone that deals equal damage if that's all they do when you can take BRD and have the same damage and make your healer's job easier as they aren't in the line of fire as often? Plus the occasional song when needed. That's why you see parties taking several bards at once over melee DPS.

Funny how most of the posts against any sort of change seem to be coming from BRDs themselves.

not new to the mmo world, been around the block buddy.. why take away the sole reason why alot of people rolled bard. thats the 1 thing they have that makes them diffrent. dont put every class into a defined sector. jeliousy is not a good color on you man

Wrong on that one, "buddy." BRD was designed to be support. You are essentially put into the "defined sector" you seem to speak of by being pretty much all DPS at the moment, aside from the occasional fight when the casters need some MP. But that's more of an oversight on SE's part as there isn't really a "support" grouping as far as the duty finder is concerned but the fact remains, you are just DPS now. A DPS with really nice perks that overshadow most of the positives any other DPS classes have.

[glen7187]

Everyone makes good points. I just hate to see things get "nerfed" especially when the game has only been out for a month. Yes there was beta and such but the full player base hasn't started until this month. Let's just see if players are not able to find strategies to adjust. With how much simpler it is to alter games nowadays, people are getting into this mode where when they are hit with a challenge they are not able to overcome they complain to dev to make it easier for them.

Not saying bard is perfect as it is now as everyones arguments are good ones. Just saying give it some time and see if it can't be balanced out with maybe different content or better strategies developed.

[fauxpas]

It's not strictly the damage. It's also the utility stacked with it. Why take someone that deals equal damage if that's all they do when you can take BRD and have the same damage and make your healer's job easier as they aren't in the line of fire as often? Plus the occasional song when needed. That's why you see parties taking several bards at once over melee DPS.

Funny how most of the posts against any sort of change seem to be coming from BRDs themselves.

funny how all complaints about bards are from monks and dragoons? why why wouldent a bard stick up for his class when some asshat makes stupid claims about something that they realyl dont know about

[himehime]

in this game, the more utility and safeness you have, the more dps you have!

[MalcolmReynolds]

funny how all complaints about bards are from monks and dragoons? why why wouldent a bard stick up for his class when some asshat makes stupid claims about something that they realyl dont know about

Right, because they're the ones most affected by how unbalanced your class is at the moment. Why wouldn't they say something when the majority of DPS slots are filled with bards?

By the way, personal insults don't make your argument any stronger. They just make you look like a child.

[Thotor]

It's not strictly the damage. It's also the utility stacked with it. Why take someone that deals equal damage if that's all they do when you can take BRD and have the same damage and make your healer's job easier as they aren't in the line of fire as often? Plus the occasional song when needed. That's why you see parties taking several bards at once over melee DPS.

That's exactly what I have been trying to say.

Yes there was beta and such but the full player base hasn't started until this month. Let's just see if players are not able to find strategies to adjust. With how much simpler it is to alter games nowadays, people are getting into this mode where when they are hit with a [...]

FYI, Bard was changed at the last moment. Bard in beta phase 4 (just before going live) was still using Conjurer has second class. They removed it for Pugilist.
SE clearly did not anticipate the impact.

[glen7187]

That's exactly what I have been trying to say.


FYI, Bard was changed at the last moment. Bard in beta phase 4 (just before going live) was still using Conjurer has second class. They removed it for Pugilist.
SE clearly did not anticipate the impact.

Does the switch to Pugilist make a big difference for damage? It looks like the only helpful Pugilist skill for damage would be Internal Release right?