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  1. #31
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    Loopah's Avatar
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    Ichigo Zangetsu
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by t00nc3ss View Post
    From oldschool tabletop/pen and paper to RPGs the Bard's sole focus was support, to bolster and enhance the party first and foremost, with personal DPS being almost last in priority. Bard's should be singing songs 99% of the time, giving the party Haste, Mana/TP regen, or a song that helps fill the Limit Break bar faster.

    Nerf bards? Nah, not entirely. Bring everyone else up or close to them; give Casters more mobility, raise Melee DPS up to compensate for dodging AEs that Ranged can ignore, add cast times to a couple Bards' abilities. Lastly, next big Patch or Expansion, completely split Archers and Bards from each other, let them be independent from each other but be a complete class.
    Of all the terrible ideas on this forum so far, yours is number 1! Completely split Archers from Bards in next patch, REALLY? You think SE will bow to your pre-conceived ideas of how a Bard should be, think again.
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    Last edited by Loopah; 09-29-2013 at 10:54 AM.

  2. #32
    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I was forced to reroll bard from monk, and its retarded how 4 button class is best dps in game in actual combat (not dummies) while having support.
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    Last edited by ilJumperMT; 09-27-2013 at 11:40 PM.

  3. #33
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    Anonydort's Avatar
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    Dort Helper
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 60
    all these whiners, i didn't even wanna play bard
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  4. #34
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    Blitxz Dragon
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotunhammer View Post
    Im liking this. Bards SHOULD be support class. Regen health, Haste, bolster ac, lift spirits (give mana) etc, but in a way that it is compensating for the bard NOT doing any damage, since he is busy playing his tunes. a class completely different from MMO's so far, that does not care about damage but rather uses his songs to win the battle.
    Well here is the problem for your suggestion there is no support role in this game you will role as Tank, Healer or Dps so at the end of the day Bard are a Dps class with utilities strip the Dps part from bards and you wont fit.
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  5. #35
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    Blitxz Dragon
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ilJumperMT View Post
    I was forced to reroll bard from monk, and its retarded how 4 button class is best dps in game in actual combat (not dummies) while having support.
    Haven't seen the option were they force you to change class weird maybe im missing something :P
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  6. #36
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    Fauxpas Winters
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 50
    take the QQ else where. people cry about the most pointless crap. In no way would a bard without a bow and 3 songs be concidered a support class. thats called fodder
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  7. #37
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    MalcolmReynolds's Avatar
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    Malcolm Reynolds
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Asking for buffs to other classes instead of nerfing one is dumb for several reasons. One, you create a whole bunch of new balance issues. Two, the game becomes much easier than it already is, and if you care about the longevity of the, you'll realize that's a bad idea as people will complete content very quickly. All BRD needs to make other classes more desirable is a decrease in damage while mobile.
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  8. #38
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    No need to buff all the other classes when only one is the problem. Bard has too much utility, mobility and damage with almost zero compromises. The only thing they need to do to bard is give them cast times on a few of their skills and that would fix all the issues. Their damage is not that high as people in here have said, it's just the fact that they NEVER stop doing damage is the problem. The utility and damage or damage and mobility. Compromises need to be made and I hope that they just take some of their mobility because I like their songs.
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  9. 09-28-2013 01:05 AM
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  10. #39
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    Alkalord's Avatar
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    Alkalord Weeone
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    To answer the OP's question, in a word, no.
    No nerf is necessary.
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  11. #40
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    Spearhawk Hawkwing
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    Phantom
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    Reaper Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by MalcolmReynolds View Post
    All BRD needs to make other classes more desirable is a decrease in damage while mobile.
    When is the damage not mobile? or do you prefer BRD to stand still 4-5 seconds after he has shot his bow?
    Im curious to what your determination of non-mobile damage that BRD have.
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