OMG Give us an AOE heal that is not worthless!

[fanservice]

Edit: fanservice i dont even know why you keep going on with this guy.

I hate being misunderstood more than being told I'm wrong and why.

If someone wants to refute me, I'd like it if they understood what I'm saying first.

[Celsius]

Because it does favor WHM's. they SCH's may have better Tank healing but WHMS can do it too. just becasue you have so called "mana issues" is either player error or your seriously doing something wrong without a bard in your party. our tank healing is not so good to have such a huge gap in aoe healing compared to WHM's. i dont see why you dont understand that. as it has been pointed out time and time again by various people. WHO ACTUALLY PLAY THE CLASS. Jeez.

[Ephany]

^^^ To the above - because he/she wants massive buffs to the class. Why else would she be here constantly comparing whms and SCH in a narrow way so as to always appear to favor whms? I just wish they (SE) would mention pet fixes.

Right back at you.
If you didn't think WHM had a bit of an advantage, you wouldn't be here crying at the chance that maybe SCH might be brought on par and you'd feel less "elite". Otherwise, why would you care what changes are made to a class you don't even play?

[ApolloGenX]

Because it does favor WHM's. they SCH's may have better Tank healing but WHMS can do it too. just becasue you have so called "mana issues" is either player error or your seriously doing something wrong without a bard in your party. our tank healing is not so good to have such a huge gap in aoe healing compared to WHM's. i dont see why you dont understand that. as it has been pointed out time and time again by various people. WHO ACTUALLY PLAY THE CLASS. Jeez.

You don't play a whm. So, forgive me if I am skeptical about someone assuming their class needs buffs because the grass is greener. That never happens. Again, you fall back to the bard argument.

I guess the question is- Are you getting benched for a second WHM? If so, for which encounter?

[Eriane]

This, ladies and gentleman, is a WHM who hasn't touched the SCH class enough to know what he's talking about.

Yes, we can give ourselves some mana back, but it would cost us around 4 times as much mana to use group heals and bring everyone's health up than it would for a WHM, so what difference does it make?
Our MP bar isn't always full and it's just as easy for us to OOM as it is for you guys. Go buy some potions and stop complaining.

Yes, your mp bar will not be full if you have to react to situations that require heavy raid healing. But you do get tools to mitigate damage etc. You know what white mages can't do? Increase effective health.

Honestly the only issue i see is sch synergy with two sch shields just overwriting each other. (Not suggesting stacking)

And please don't try to bring up stoneskin... That argument maybe sorta works on a tank.

[Celsius]

You dont play a SCH. So,forgive me if i am skeptical about someone assuming a class does NOT need buffs. And nobody is saying you NEED a bard in your party. but thats just making it harder on yourself. and No, im not getting benched for a second WHM because for what i do i do it better. but when it comes to patch 2.1 and their is AoE heavy situations in which 1 WHM cannot just medica ii medica it all up. i might get benched.

[ApolloGenX]

Right back at you.
If you didn't think WHM had a bit of an advantage, you wouldn't be here crying at the chance that maybe SCH might be brought on par and you'd feel less "elite". Otherwise, why would you care what changes are made to a class you don't even play?

I am working on leveling SCH, but find ACN incredibly boring- I will be playing a SCH and completely support fixing what is really wrong with the class- namely pet AI/UI.

I am just not interested in having two classes that play essentially the same. I have even been supportive of buffing the SCH pet abilities or reducing CDs.

Unfortunately, the result is always the same- SCH QQing for abilities identical to a whm, or superior. Direct AE healing with zero emphasis on the pet... plus all the other goodies scholars get.

[ApolloGenX]

No, im not getting benched for a second WHM because for what i do i do it better. but when it comes to patch 2.1 and their is AoE heavy situations in which 1 WHM cannot just medica ii medica it all up. i might get benched.

You aren't getting benched... it sounds like it's you and a whm... and now you are "speculating" there might be AoE heavy damage that will necessitate 2 whms... because 1 can't cover it? That is what the second healer is for... preferably a SCH. There is AE damage in the game now, and WHM/SCH is the best combo... why would things suddenly change, just because you don't get massive buffs and become OP?

Your pet is junk- everyone knows the AI needs to be fixed... but asking for massive buffs because something "might be coming" is ridiculous. You do know they design encounters with these things in mind, right? Maybe they will have massive tank damage- should I be here crying for WHM buffs?

[Celsius]

No, becasue a WHM can actually heal a raid through massive damage. Unlike SCH that depends on an AOe that cant even stack and is super mana inefficient. And no, i dont want massive buffs. i just want afix to the Pet AI and a better Aoe. it doesnt have to be on par with Medica one or medica 2 i just want to be able to contribute in AOe heavy healing situations. and its not speculation. in almost ALL MMO's endgame is very AoE heavy. WHM/SCH is the best combo right now because i can focus on keeping the tanks alive while the WHM heals up raid damage. the sad part is. is that the WHM can keep the tank up, Yet i cannot heal raid damage without chaincasting succor and pretty much OOMING myself in the process. (because face it most SCH's only use energy drain when they need to.)

[sharazisspecial]

Potency wise whm has much higher tank healing then sch. By around 900 higher then sch potency every 10 seconds
When you factor in lustrate sch catches up and may beat whm in small period if chaining lustrates but whm also has benediction .
So if 2 lustrates are up and whm has no benediction sch>whm
If 1 or 0 lustrates are up whm>sch

There is also the fact whm uses much less gcds to do immense healing to raid compared to sch.