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  1. #51
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    Demlix Layze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivienne View Post
    There are web exploits found all the time, and it is perfectly possible you can get hacked by a zero-day exploit just by clicking the very first result from an innocuous google search, and not know about it for weeks or months.
    Most of these exploits want bank account info, or email accounts to hijack and spread mass emails. What are the chances that these are looking for an SE account so they can login to FFXIV ARR and sell Gil? Probably only going to pick one up going to a sketchy Gil buying site, or some other sketchy FFXIV ARR third party site.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demlix View Post
    Most of these exploits want bank account info, or email accounts to hijack and spread mass emails. What are the chances that these are looking for an SE account so they can login to FFXIV ARR and sell Gil? Probably only going to pick one up going to a sketchy Gil buying site, or some other sketchy FFXIV ARR third party site.
    You'd be surprised.

    I havn't seen it for FF14 yet, but I get fake e-mails purporting to be arenanet trying to get me to hand over my GW2 log in information on a weekly basis
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  3. #53
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    Ya, really didn't think about this, but you are definitely right. As the hacked accounts get returned to their rightful owners, it becomes important to actually unblock them.
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    No, sorry. If you are dumb enough to get "hacked" you aren't worth my time.

    I will never get "hacked" because I am not a retard. Strong passwords, not using the same one multiple places, and not going to questionable websites, works well for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animation View Post
    I was typing out a reply about how people get hacked but I'm not going to bother. I'm currently lodestoning people with normal names and if there account seems somewhat decent then I'll unblacklist it.
    Getting hacked is pretty pathetic in this time and age, I mean security on stuff is so high the only thing I can think of is a) Virus from downloading bots or buying gold or b) Very, very weak password.
    Or emails/fansites/cell phones being hacked due to those sites being breached. Do you think that hackers will stop refining their tactics, specially when there is money involved? They have all incentive in the world to try to find weaknesses at sites that do not have sufficient economic means or motivation to oppose the attempts properly.

    I've never been hacked, but regardless I decided to use a physical token, because I know that hacks evolve and "poor" sites may not be able to pay enough to protect themselves from advanced attacks.
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    Last edited by HurtigeKarl; 09-27-2013 at 02:02 AM.

  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandemonium View Post
    You (and many others) seem to forget phishing and how rife that is.

    You can't blame people for being gullible and falling for a phishing scam, then following the dodgy links and entering crucial information. These people are clearly legit players, if a little on the dim witted side - they don't all deserve to be written off as "RMT/Botting scum - you deserve my /blist!"
    Still, they should have taken precautions before it ever happened. Then at least in the event they were careless with their information its not the end of the world.

    There's no excuse not to have a software token now.

    Incompatible/no phone? Can't get physical token in your country? Learn how to make the app work on your computer http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Android-iPhone

    "But I don't understand this techspeak!"

    Then learn it. If you have time to play, you have time to learn. What's the better option, taking 20 minutes out of your playtime to learn how to protect your account or being locked out for weeks because it was compromised?
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    Last edited by Xieveral; 09-27-2013 at 02:20 AM. Reason: 1k character limit

  7. #57
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    My point is that someone that takes all the security precautions possible is astronomically less likely to get hacked. And if you get hacked because you didn't you have no one to blame but yourself.

    I'm aware certain exploits can be found, but Windows User Access Control will prevent a ton of that too. Also ExecuteDisable bit in the bios being set prevents buffer overflow attacks in the kernel address space, meaning it will blue screen before it let's it work.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    My point is that someone that takes all the security precautions possible is astronomically less likely to get hacked. And if you get hacked because you didn't you have no one to blame but yourself.

    I'm aware certain exploits can be found, but Windows User Access Control will prevent a ton of that too. Also ExecuteDisable bit in the bios being set prevents buffer overflow attacks in the kernel address space, meaning it will blue screen before it let's it work.
    My counterpoint is simply that you shouldn't be blanket assuming that someone is at fault for being hacked, nor claiming there is no excuse for not being prepared.

    Most people who use the internet are only peripherally (if at all!) aware of what is involved in internet security. Not being prepared for something you don't understand is hardly something you should blanket insulted for, as seems to be the case whenever this topic comes up. For example, bios settings? You really expect someone to know how to change their bios just by virtue of being online and playing a game? That is flabbergasting to me. The truth is few people who use computers, be it for video games or the internet, or anything else, know anything about that level of computer security. It is just a machine to them. It works, or it doesn't. When it doesn't, they get someone to help them out, or they go online to try and find a solution. If they find out, it is usually after the fact, rarely before.

    I know far to many people who are ignorant of the internet, yet use it on a daily basis, to be comfortable with this kind of blanket assumption of fault. It is too close to the "you only have yourself to blame for walking down that street", especially when you have never been told by anyone that (or why) you shouldn't.
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  9. #59
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    Talis Nenmyr
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    I'm antisocial and dislike people, despite playing an MMO. You can bet your sweet bippy my blacklist is going to stay full. And when the world is empty and desolate, echoes of joy long forgotten amidst debris and destruction... only then will I gleefully jump into puddles without fear of judgment from the sapients of Eorzea.

    Come to think of it, I might feel charitable and clear one person off of my blacklist today just to see how quickly I add them again.
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    Know this, ye who relentlessly jump over my table... All of the glasses spilt, all of the hats tipped, thy soul shall be recompense for the atrocities ye have committed against mine intended leisure after long hours of defending Eorzea. When the Void opens and all that stands between thou and agonizing, fiery damnation are my ilk, ye shall know despair as we step aside.

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    Hed Luminos
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    In all my years of gaming online, chatting, emailing or social networking I have only been hacked once! That was due to my friend yelling out the password which was a phrase that we both used in game around hundreds of users. The person who hijacked them then went through his friend list looking for alternate characters of his using the same password. I changed it and he learned not to be so ignorant and it's never happened again. I seriously don't understand how people get hacked. It doesn't take much to make something up that isn't easy to guess. I have to agree with others. It's either because they went to a gold buying or power leveling site and got jacked at the front door. OR they created and account using the same password that they use for the game. Either way it's your bad and don't be too surprised if people don't respond to you once you get your account back.
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