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  1. #31
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    Mindful Pizza
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    I sure people running out of the blacklists anyways, Also for those that think impossible for them to hack or steal your information they do it all the time, even on the tokens just the tokens not worth there time most the time. Had friends get hacked from keylogger deep imbedded programs that some the normal virus scan can not find sucks,. They need have the cellphone text message system in place , that if someone log into your character on different isp or you can choose everytime you log in , get text ,message with a code. Since the odd of them cloning your phone is .1%. Banks and microsoft now went that way. Then if lose the phone have to answer 5 your security q's. with little extra info added. Since there so much Phishing going on , with this game since take a act of god find there contact info , the phishers love it.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xehlwan View Post
    Being on the correct site is what that advice is all about. A phishing site will always use http, since they are highly unlikely to have a trusted certification chain.
    Not true. Phishing sites can and have used https. The only thing that's verified when buying a "trusted" cert is that the $10 payment was received. The whole "trusted" thing is a scam.
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  3. #33
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    F'whalon Yhisa
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    I think I'll clear my blacklist names when they make it so I can right click and add names to it. Not until after that happens.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animation View Post
    Not all of Square-Enix's pages are HTTPS. Some are HTTP. All account or log-in related things WILL be HTTPS, if they're not, get off the site asap and check manually.
    That's what I said: anything security related is https. I think we are on the same page on this issue, though

    For all those who call people stupid and look down on others for having their accounts stolen - shame on you.
    There are hundreds, if not thousands of methods to steal or hack passwords. Any system that you think is secure today could be cracked tomorrow. Just because you haven't had your account stolen yet, doesn't mean you are too smart to have it happen, only that you are lucky. Every digital system has vulnerabilities, even security tokens.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasibihc View Post
    So I saw this RMT called William Shakespeare.. how do YOU know it's not the REAL DEAL and only an RMT?!
    I remember this! I was so enthused that I was being sold gil by the Bard of Avon himself.

    I almost asked him what is was like being dead, but then I figured, this is Shakespeare and he probably gets that question all the time.
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  6. #36
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    Ryios Locke
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    I'll keep them on there until someone that's not on their asks me if I Blisted X person and to unblist them because were going on a run together or something like that. Imo people who get hacked... Get hacked for a reason. You did something wrong (be it buying gil, biting the hook on a phishing attempt, or downloading something you shouldn't have 'Like a bot, chat parser, etc etc etc')... As such I keep hacked people on there until an event arises where I need to unblacklist them.

    Unless someone can tell me how they legitly got hacked and it wasn't their fault.

    Personally, I don't want to rely on people that get hacked. I don't want to run with them, I don't want to level with them. I don't want to put a lot of work into gearing someone out just for them to get hacked again, huge inconvenience.

    I'll probably continue to feel that way unless it becomes evident that the people getting hacked is because of a security invulnerability in the game itself. (E.g. unencrypted traffic getting hijacked, or a leak in SE player databases etc etc)
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    Last edited by Ryios; 09-27-2013 at 12:12 AM.

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindful View Post
    Had friends get hacked from keylogger deep imbedded programs that some the normal virus scan can not find sucks
    See, if you have a keylogger on your PC, you did something wrong to get it there.

    Windows isn't magical, a hacker can't just run something on your PC. You have to let it run, or tell it to run. Once in a blue moon there is a browser security invulnerability that will allow a Javaapplet to run un-attended or something likie that, but 99.99% of the time, someone get's something on their PC because They trusted something and ran it.... I don't care what it is, if it's not made by Google, Microsoft, Sun, Oracle, or Apple, do not trust it. Research it before you run it.

    On that note, I've been on x64 windows since 2003, and without anti virus since 2003. I've never been hacked in any game. I've never had a virus or spam or ad ware.

    It's really a simple matter, keep crap off your PC and don't install crap you don't know what it is and don't trust.

    If it's some dudes Warrior Number Cruncher app... Don't trust it. If it's some script to configure the game perfectly for you, don't trust it. If it's anything don't trust it. Trust nothing and no one.
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  8. #38
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    I'm not gonna play the blame game on the "how did you get hacked" front, but I don't think the hacked individuals are somehow owed special consideration from each and every person who ever blacklisted them. If your account got hacked, that's simply one of the reasons why it's a bad thing.

    That being said, while I would consider removing the normal names from my blacklist, the dilemma for me is I have some jerkwads on there too. They weren't botters or RMT spammers, they were people I considered to be just plain morons (for one reason or another) that I didn't care to see /shouts from or spare a second thought after blisting them. I'm hardly going to be able to remember their names from the RMT spammers with 'normal' names. If I just had to clear the normal names from my blist once, then, sure, I wouldn't mind having to blist those particular individuals again if the need arises, but this thread's OP is asking that we frequently clear the normal names from our blist, and unless SE gives us subcategories to 'organize' our blacklist (a bit much if you ask me), I really don't find it worth the trouble. If you wind up in a party with me, just have someone else in the party tell me to remove you.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  9. #39
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    Aeslyn Grey
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    I remove the oldest ones as time goes by if they have a name that isn't a jumble of letters and I haven't had the same ones come back spamming again so far. I don't like this stigma people are attaching to those who got hacked. I am not a computer expert like so many in this thread claim to be, but I am sure that not all those people who got hacked are idiots or bad people.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandemonium View Post
    You (and many others) seem to forget phishing and how rife that is.
    Security key is free, not using one is a person's fault.

    and for those who actually fell for a phishing scam, I have some really cheap land to sell you!
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