9 Coke required now? (or other)

[Kamaru]

I don't think you know what a troll is.....just because I disagree with your point of view doesn't mean I'm trolling you.

A troll post would look a little more like
"I just want to make sure that if SE reads this thread that not everyone is a whiner/complainer and wants everything handed to them. Just because negative Nancy is the loudest, doesn't make her right. The smarter crafters realize that while these items do require tokens to purchase, a crafter can purchase them via the auction house. However I guess I should keep my mouth shut and let you spew your garbage from your short sightedness because then prices may fall, making it even cheaper."

[Aemun]

It would have been much better to have the two star item itself require the coke to make. So a chestpiece could require 7 coke, gloves could require 3 or 4, and so on. Also if they would slightly raise the stat caps on items it would help to make materia and crafted items desirable. As it stands right now grade III STR, VIT, INT materia are fairly worthless because most pieces you cannot even add +1 on a piece of armor unless you would like INT for your warrior or STR for your blackmage.

[Shiyo]

Seems very high. Vanya trousers for DRG require 27 of Coke, Animal Fat and one more item which seems too high. Over 3000 tokens to make one.

Wow, that's the first item I've seen cost 3.6k tomes. What. The. HELL. Yoshi, are you insane?

Also, I can't believe there's people here who don't know their ass from their face. Just go away, please. Reika stop responding to them.

[Kamaru]

Wow, that's the first item I've seen cost 3.6k tomes. What. The. HELL. Yoshi, are you insane?

Also, I can't believe there's people here who don't know their ass from their face. Just go away, please. Reika stop responding to them.

I did find out some more info after looking into crafting a set of gear for my bard. I believe all the brd gear (except for the tunic) require two 2 star materials. The vanya gear only requires one for all except the pants AND you can use it on multiple classes so maybe that should be the focus of some fuss. I won't craft a piece that requires 2 two start mats and I'll agree that the time (SPENT ON MAKING GIL OR FARMING DUNGEONS) is not worth it in that case.

Reika, I completely agree with you that the pieces that require two 2 start materials is not is not balanced when casters can 5/6 pieces with only one of those materials, and it can be used on multiple jobs. If they were(and need to) to equalize the materials (maybe even make drg/mnk/brd gear a little cheaper since they can't share) then no I don't I don't think the current price of coke is to much. But not all pieces require two materials and it's those pieces that I believe are worth crafting vs farming dungeons.

Did you level scholar all the way to 50 just so that this thread would be even more funny?

[Reika]

Added the suggested balancing solution to first post. Should have done that when I made it.

[ProxyTooMuch]

This is a quick way for people who want to rush to gear up their fresh level 50s for high end raiding. 8 FC members get together and run CM 10 times = 8000 philosophy tokens = 64 cokes/whatever. Within a day the new level 50 is decked out in full level 70 HQ crafted gear and is ready for Coil.

[gigi_frana]

Yes because it`s no problem finding 8 people who have 10 hours of play time a day, and who all agree to mindlessly farm CM 10 times.

[Reika]

This is a quick way for people who want to rush to gear up their fresh level 50s for high end raiding. 8 FC members get together and run CM 10 times = 8000 philosophy tokens = 64 cokes/whatever. Within a day the new level 50 is decked out in full level 70 HQ crafted gear and is ready for Coil.

Surely you mean quickly gearing up with darklight gear then going in and smashing winding coils, because thats what really happened on your new servers, because you can ignore crafting completely and do just that.

Or, are you prepared to show off all that hq il70 crafted gear you "quickly" prepared with your 10 cm runs a day.

[Maroite]

Surely you mean quickly gearing up with darklight gear then going in and smashing winding coils, because thats what really happened on your new servers, because you can ignore crafting completely and do just that.

Or, are you prepared to show off all that hq il70 crafted gear you "quickly" prepared with your 10 cm runs a day.

I know two guilds on my server who are on Coil turn 4-5 and the majority of their gear is crafted + over melded. *shrug* (There may be other guilds but I just don't know of them)

Also I finished lvling CUL to 50 yesterday and will start on leatherworking/weaving next - not because I feel some self entitlement to being able to craft the absolute best items for the least amount of effort, but because I found that I actually get enjoyment out of crafting in this game.

[ShakeAC]

As someone with 50 all crafts on a non-legacy server whos made probably 40-50 two star gear pieces, I think for the most part the costs of these gear pieces are fine if not only slightly too high.

This gear is basically without exception better than darklight. Yes, the gear itself may in some instances have less wanted stats, but when it does those stats can always be melded heavily. In the end each piece almost always is stronger than darklight with 5 melded materia.

Because of this I think its fine for most pieces to cost 9x125 tomestones, it makes it pretty difficult to get the best possible gear (besides allagan/myth token gear) and I think thats a good thing.

I do have issue with a lot of recipes being 18 and the legs for casters/dragoon being 27. I think thats pretty ridiculous, over 2k tomes for a ring is a bit crazy. I think all pieces should be 9 materials with the exception of heavy darksteel legs/chest since these are two piece gear, i think those should be 14-15 each.