This Bard stacking thing needs to be dealt with

[Warlyx]

Maybe its not that people are Bard stacking but the fact that 80% of the population are Bards. Then again, that fact is probably also a cause for alarm that something is going on with Bards. For the love of god, stop rolling Bards. I know its tempting to roll an easy mode class but at least roll BLM. Too many god damn bards.

I've been hearing complaints about Bards, SMN, and SCH being imbalanced. Its probably due to the fact that these classes have not been tested enough before release. Arcanist is a new class and Bards were originally a support DPS (an idea that I loved) but since players were complaining that they do not have their easy mode ranged DPS class, Bards were quickly and recently changed to pure DPS.

this , too many brds , ifrit with 3 bards today lol , was amusing and no bow droped , but i wanted the bow to drop

[savant07]

SMN is right up with bard in movement fights. Ahead if bard has to sing. W/o relic weaponry my 4 DoTs tick for 360 damage, plus pet nukes for 150 every however long that keep going while I run.

Summoners actually do more even in movement...way more in single target tank and spank. It's amazing how people complain about bard DPS when it is the summoners that will be stacked up soon just to meet the DPS requirements of raids

[Ascensi]

How are you doing Monk endgame with as a 45 Monk? I can say from experience that Monks are the king of DPS at level 45 (except against SMN but that's another issue). I do see merits in your other points but since I have not done Coil and AK, I'll have to see for myself.

im levelling monk at the moment, i have a warrior 50, which is also a useless class in coil p4+ because of mitigation. I'm the king of rolling shit classes at the moment. Lol

[Alhanelem]

^ PFFFFFFFFT. Whatno. Requiem does NOT buff brd's dps by 60%. Maybe 1.5% on the off chance you have a bard who actually uses Flaming Arrow for anything but adds

This is a stupidly retarded assumption too. A monk, a good one, will out dps an equally geared bard on almost every occasion, even with losing GL3 on invincible phases. A dragoon can deal as much if not more, too, AND will never have a tp problem due to invigorate. Get low? 500 tp, okay.

People who think 3 bard is the pristine set up for end game are deluded.

It's been said that physical attacks that are based on an element (BRD attacks, MNK attacks) they aren't affected at all by requiem.

(edit; didn't realize the therad was this long at first, I tend to hit reply as soon as I see a post i want to respond to, bad habit.0

[Sindri_Myr]

The solution is simple.
Bards should be turned into Support Roles, not DPS ones, they have to nerf their DPS while giving them better songs that actually increase the DPS of other classes. That way you also get rid of one DPS class and make the DF easier for everyone else.

Also songs should be modified to give less MP/TP but to increase also other stats, that way you stop the endless pool of MP for parties, which is straight down gamebreaking.

People like you should be slapped, and categorized as trolls on sight.
How about you leave your prejudice ideas to yourself? This is NOT FFXI, so stop trying to make it be one.
Your type belong to the the same group of people who are bitching about Summoners being the Warlock version of WoW.
If you can't handle the current state of the game, leave.
Don't look for problems where there are none.

FFXIV Summoners and Bards are NOT the Summoners and Bards you played in FFXI.
Get over it.

[blowfin]

Maybe its not that people are Bard stacking but the fact that 80% of the population are Bards.

The recent population survey suggests you pulled this figure straight out of your butt.

Between 31-50 Bard population totals 17% of DPS classes, which make up 51% of the the total population. So bards actually make up around 8% of the population, not 80%.

The most popular DPS class between 31-50 is actually Dragoon, making up around 12% of the total population.

[PsychologyPhD]

The recent population survey suggests you pulled this figure straight out of your butt.

Between 31-50 Bard population totals 17% of DPS classes, which make up 51% of the the total population. So bards actually make up around 8% of the population, not 80%.

The most popular DPS class between 31-50 is actually Dragoon, making up around 12% of the total population.

This is golden, I love when people slap ignorance in the face with statistical facts. I think I love you...

[Little_Gray]

The recent population survey suggests you pulled this figure straight out of your butt.

Between 31-50 Bard population totals 17% of DPS classes, which make up 51% of the the total population. So bards actually make up around 8% of the population, not 80%.

The most popular DPS class between 31-50 is actually Dragoon, making up around 12% of the total population.

I love you.

[Skies]

It's been said that physical attacks that are based on an element (BRD attacks, MNK attacks) they aren't affected at all by requiem.

(edit; didn't realize the therad was this long at first, I tend to hit reply as soon as I see a post i want to respond to, bad habit.0

Need to remember that an attack will only be elemental if the tooltip actually says it's elemental. Fists of Fire does not, actually, mention anything about being fire-elemental! Which might sound counter-intuitive to it's name, but it's a Thing.
I don't know about Burning Arrow, what does the tooltip say?

[Nazzo]

bards actually make up around 8% of the population, not 80%.

The most popular DPS class between 31-50 is actually Dragoon, making up around 12% of the total population.

Bear in mind the fact that this number includes everyone who has the job leveled to 31+, it does not mean they are playing/planning on playing that job at 50.

Given that DRG provides extremely powerful cross-class skills to both MNK and BRD which require Lancer to be leveled to 34, that gets factored into that percentage. On the flipside, the only thing Archer has to offer BLM and SMN is Quelling Strikes at 34, which people do not/will not view as nearly as required as, say, Blood for Blood(LNC) is for MNK and BRD. If anything, it's more likely that those who have Archer leveled above 30 are planning on using the job at 50 than it is for those who have Lancer leveled above 30 to be using the job at 50.

Not saying there aren't a ton of both DRGs and BRDs running around, but rather that that number is really not the best statistic to go by.