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  1. #31
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    rubina's Avatar
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    Ruby Manastorm
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirathu View Post
    One burstheals, the other migrates. We have done Titan with 2 SCH also. All the whiners should learn to play there class.
    Do you mean mitigates or migrates? I'm looking forward in learning how to use my SCH. It's only L.31 right now and it feels a little awkward compared to my WHM, but I've seen some amazing SCH at work. Do you manage your pet a lot, especially in the primal fights?
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  2. #32
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    Cilid Schneewind
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Prevent is the right word.



    Know your Fight is Key äs a SCH. Micromanagement of your pet is also important to geht max benefit out of her heals.
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    Last edited by Kirathu; 09-24-2013 at 11:41 PM.

  3. #33
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    Rylai Crestfall
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Do you prefer bulk aoe heals, or Lustrate and a few minor utilities/buffs? Both jobs are useful and compliment each other very well.
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  4. #34
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    Lord Ghondon
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I am WHM but sacred ground is an amazing skill that if used correctly has amazing HPS output.
    Titan stomp stack up in bubble. Titan leaps stack in bubble. Titan Ultimate stack in bubble.
    For some math on the stomps lets say we are getting 4 stomps at around 700 dam per person. thats 22400 damage. That bubble is essentially healing for 2240 damage while the sch is still healing. He is now far outhealing the WHM in the group.
    Coil turn 4 last dreadnaught STACK IN BUBBLE.


    Also threat control is far easier on a SCH since their shields dont produce enmity it helps them alot there.
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  5. #35
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by ghondon View Post
    I am WHM but sacred ground is an amazing skill that if used correctly has amazing HPS output.
    Titan stomp stack up in bubble. Titan leaps stack in bubble. Titan Ultimate stack in bubble.
    For some math on the stomps lets say we are getting 4 stomps at around 700 dam per person. thats 22400 damage. That bubble is essentially healing for 2240 damage while the sch is still healing. He is now far outhealing the WHM in the group.
    Coil turn 4 last dreadnaught STACK IN BUBBLE.


    Also threat control is far easier on a SCH since their shields dont produce enmity it helps them alot there.
    Your math is a bit off, and you have an extra digit in there.

    4 x 700 = 2800

    .1 x 2800 = 280

    2800 - 280 = 2520

    Also, it's sacred soil. Synonyms, I know, but isn't sacred ground a paladin skill?
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    Last edited by fanservice; 09-25-2013 at 06:36 AM.

  6. #36
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomih View Post
    Farmed fights: SCH.
    SCH can put out more damage, provide more utility when incoming damage is less of a concern, and makes for a better hybrid.
    This is simply untrue in regards to damage. WHM will always out dps a SCH due the potency on their nukes having huge gaps. I believe the highest potency attack a SCH has is Energy Drain(150) which requires an aetherflow charge, while WHM can use Stone II(170) with impunity. And when it comes to AoE it's not even a contest.
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  7. #37
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    Kaos Conna
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 71
    Unfortunately people drastically underestimate the sch a sch, because they count the sch as but one person they underestimate our fairies. Atm i physick for about 900 with eos embracing about 600 (thats a whms cure 2 without any buffs active) with fey illumination i physick about 1100 with her embracing about 700 or so with rouse up shes healing about 900. That means i can spam for 1900 with lustrates doing 20% of tanks health off the gcd and having an internal gcd of 1 sec. Considering you never need to blow all charges and before encounters start with 6 (3 from initial entry before encounter and the use of aether) thats a burst of 120% healing. This is also not accounting for the 15% str reduction from virus or 10% dmg reduction from eye for an eye.

    Whms may win in aoe but not in tank healing.
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  8. #38
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    Northern Kaze
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I agree that SCH has a pet with decent HPS. But the Pet AI is so poorly implemented. You need to micromanage the pet, and when it comes to intense healing scenarios, you will tend to forget to manage and focus in using your own heals. Not to mention how you need to change its stance constantly to not pop all its cool down with no one else around.

    If we are taking into consideration your SCH+Pet heal, WHM has 2 stackable regeneration skills, on top of their normal heals. WHM also have traits that give you more Mind, compared to SCH base traits of Intelligence. Bubble makes life easier, but it's not game changing. If you are a good WHM that knows boss fights well. Just pop Surecast(mage cross skill) and time your medica to heal right as the AOE hits.

    I have both SCH and WHM, and right now, though I like the unique playstyle of SCH, WHM is just "better". Sure SCH can "heal" decently, but they seem like a very cool novelty healer that barely runs out of MP.
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  9. #39
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    Rylai Crestfall
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pentt View Post
    This is simply untrue in regards to damage. WHM will always out dps a SCH due the potency on their nukes having huge gaps. I believe the highest potency attack a SCH has is Energy Drain(150) which requires an aetherflow charge, while WHM can use Stone II(170) with impunity. And when it comes to AoE it's not even a contest.
    Please don't post misinformation. You are not counting SCH dots. SCH vastly out damages WHM and can offer some offheals via the pet while doing it.
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  10. #40
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by rylai View Post
    Please don't post misinformation. You are not counting SCH dots. SCH vastly out damages WHM and can offer some offheals via the pet while doing it.
    Please don't tell me I'm posting misinformation without evidence.

    WHM has 2 DoTs as well. They do not have Bane to spread them, but during AoE trash Holy is the spell to go to anyway.

    They do not have access to the pet healer, but we are talking about farming content that we outgear. A regen will be enough to keep your tank alive in most trash packs.
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    Last edited by Pentt; 09-25-2013 at 01:42 PM.

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