Advantages of WHM over SCH?

[fanservice]

wow I will just stop using adjectives then.

"They are healers."

Hopefully I don't need a development team member to back me up on that.

Because that's a statement you can prove, unlike what you said before.

its not supposed to be a pure healer

Same with this person.

[SasaraiKorai]

Because that's a statement you can prove, unlike what you said before.

The fact that they queue as a healer is all the proof that you need.

[BrodyAlgana]

SasaraiKorai! Thank you! I thought of that while I was sitting here working, so I logged back on just to add that to my previous post. Yes the fact that Square queues you as a healer, and only as a healer, would make you the a main healer in any four man group you are grouped with.
I guess with 8 mans you are stuck choosing a "main" healer or not from the 2 - just like you do with tanks.

I guess the developers already spoke.

Again, Thank you SasaraiKorai for picking up on that!

[M0xie]

You all forgot to mention Shroud of Saints!

[Kal-El]

I've tanked end game as WAR with SCHs and WHMs together, individually and in pairs.

They both keep me alive.

That's all I actually care about.

There's no "better" healer IMO.

[Kyomih]

Copied from another thread:

Both are very capable healers and both are great at what they do but it depends on the fight and situation the skills are compared in:

Steady, bread and butter Healing: Both.
Both jobs have no issues keeping a tank alive. WHM has to be a bit more careful with GDC and spell cast times while the SCH gets the fairy backup. Regen helps but reaction time of the fairy is instant compared to lag issues a WHM might have to deal with.

Tank and spank: SCH.
WHM is capable, but SCH will put out more HPS with a macro'd fairy. Scholars with a macro'd fairy seem to be better at single target healing using basic spells by about 15% without factoring in CDs; however, I'm inclined to believe that they would still come out ahead their own CDs. This drops down to a 10% bonus during high throughput times, but again - without CDs and highly dependent on fight mechanics.

High Movement: slight advantage for SCH.
The fairy is automated. Regen is fantastic. It's roughly equivalent to the best single target cure bomb, instant cast, and costs less mana. The problem is that you have to be very aware of what's going on. You need to move, target, and cast at all the same time. Scholar on the other hand can move and let their fairy do the work.

Predictable Damage: SCH, but just barely.
Both classes can prep for incoming damage. WHM has stoneskin but Stoneskin is available to SCHs, too even though without the passive boost. The SCH shield costs less and is attached to normal healing spells. So a single SCH can pre-stoneskin before the pull or before a planned hit and throw their own shield up for a higher amount of mitigated damage.

Super Long Fights: The SCH has this one hands-down.
They have several mana efficient heals, 3 free heals for 20% HP each every minute, the fairy provides free heals, their procs are frequent, and Aetherflow accounts for ~1.6% of their total mana every 5 seconds (20% every minute). They also have more free heals, or energy drain for more mana returns. This is a huge benefit. Compare this to a WHM's refresh which gives ~.915% every 5 seconds (~33% every 3 minutes).

Burst Healing: WHMs outclasses by far
If you have someone dipping low as part of a fight mechanic, movement, or just general slip-up then you're going to want a WHM in your party. They have the highest HPS, and it's much easier to control the healing when they can turret.

Burst AOE damage - selected area: WHM.
No question - more bursty (but very MP intense) tools in the WHMs box.

Burst AOE damage - entire party/raid: WHM.
Better range on WHMs Medica II - Cure 3 is very situational

Continuous lower AOE damage - stacked: SCH.
Sacred soil for an immediate 10% bonus, and the fairy's aoe healing for tight groups make SCH the premier stacked healer. If Regen is not enough a WHM is forced to use high MP AoE spells.

Continuous AOE damage - staggered: WHM.
This was too close to call. Both have AOE abilities. The SCH has more mana, and more instants to handle multiple scenarios. The fairy can also help by smart healing the raid.

Rollercoaster fights (intense healing, no/low healing, repeat) WHM.
The WHM is just better suited to respond to intense healing requirements. The scholar is still usable, but they'll burn more mana and GCDs doing it - especially when it comes to AOE.

Low healing required - DPS race: SCH, hands down.
The WHM has more burst damage, but the spells are too mana intensive. SCH can dot up, throw up cleric stance to have the dots do more damage, and then take it back down when it's time to heal. They can also swap to the utility fairy which will boost the skill/spell speed of actual DPS classes.

Emergency - someone screwed up - save the day spells: WHM, without a doubt
With an instant full 100% heal, 30% + healing CD, and they come with the possibility of an instant cure 2 (~40% health) or cure 3. A SCH isn't bad in their own right. They have their own version of holy shock (20% health, 3x a minute), but that's it. And it comes at the cost of other abilities such as energy drain or sacred soil.

Passive utility: Both.
WHM is better for high end content where you don't want to give up healing for protective utility. SCH is better for content where healing is less important, but you'll want to down the boss more quickly. You'll still want both in your group. Whitemage for the protect magic resistance buff (it's just physical when going cross class), and SCH for the heroism/bloodlust fairy.

Farmed fights: SCH.
SCH can put out more damage, provide more utility when incoming damage is less of a concern, and makes for a better hybrid.

Fights with enmity wipes: WHM.
The fairy can pull hate too quickly sometimes. It's not a big issue, but WHMs get Shroud of Saints. Doesn't really matter that much, though.

I'm sure we can quibble on some of the points that may sway this one way or another. This is especially true for specific fights but they're close enough that it really doesn't matter in light parties and in 8x you would want one of both ideally.

So, lets not forget the great buffs the SCH fairies bring to the mix on top of no lag, no mp, constant healing
Not every class needs to be equally good at the same things...and in the end it comes down to the party you are in.

A last note:
Scholars are proactive healers while White Mages are Reactive healers.
If you cast your Succor and Adloquium when a big hit already happened and not before that you are one step behind as Scholar. White Mage can react to damage while Scholar can prevent it. Playing a Scholar you are all about preventing damage and lower incoming damage, as a White Mage you are all about fixing the damage that has been done.

[Nahara]

I like bringing this up, because it's so simple, yet so often overlooked, probably because it's not so readily noticeable:

White Mages have the Proshell trait. Protect, when used by anyone else, only increases physical defense. With the Proshell passive, Protect will also increase your magical defense.

[Kyomih]

I like bringing this up, because it's so simple, yet so often overlooked, probably because it's not so readily noticeable:

White Mages have the Proshell trait. Protect, when used by anyone else, only increases physical defense. With the Proshell passive, Protect will also increase your magical defense.

I mentioned that in my post above
Scholar gets Fey Covenant an AOE 15y 20 %Magic Defense buff with Eos.

[Kirathu]

WHM / SCH booth 50 with relic weapon.

To be honest i like booth classes. Each of them has its own advantage. For some bosses in bahamut i prefer SCH over WHM, sometimes Vice versa.

To me each single healclass is perfectly balanced to what he should do. One burstheals, the other migrates.
We have done Titan with 2 SCH also. All the whiners should learn to play there class.

Kkthxby.

[rubina]

Very cool thread, thanks for starting it. I'm a WHM who is now leveling a Scholar to see the other side of the healing. I've seen a few of my Cure2 crit anywhere from 2648 - 3018.