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  1. #171
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    JokingCat's Avatar
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    Asura Strike
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    Cerberus
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    even in coils ppl take 2 pal over 1 warrior
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  2. #172
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    We do coil with a warrior np. Ppl make a bigger deal out of it than It is.

    We generally use: war, pld, mnk, smn, brd, brd/blm, whm, sch
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  3. #173
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    FreyjaMists's Avatar
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    Freyja Mists
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    here OP lets fucking leave it here, stop playing the class, you've seen how many people say the class is fine its just your rotation? i can start posting every single boss parser (with boss name) to show you that monks PvE are beast. sure its harder, but some people enjoy that.... i know i do o.O you saying that monks need a rebalance is just a slap in the face : / go play BLM if you just wanna see big #s
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  4. #174
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    DuferBloodmoon's Avatar
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    Dufer Bloodmoon
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FreyjaMists View Post
    here OP lets fucking leave it here, stop playing the class, you've seen how many people say the class is fine its just your rotation? i can start posting every single boss parser (with boss name) to show you that monks PvE are beast. sure its harder, but some people enjoy that.... i know i do o.O you saying that monks need a rebalance is just a slap in the face : / go play BLM if you just wanna see big #s
    Thank you. The guy and many others are not even aware that monk has more of a skill ceiling than they can even think of which makes it bad. Like I said in my previous post, please, don't ruin a game because of your badness.
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  5. #175
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    JokingCat's Avatar
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    Asura Strike
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    Cerberus
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FreyjaMists View Post
    here OP lets fucking leave it here, stop playing the class, you've seen how many people say the class is fine its just your rotation? i can start posting every single boss parser (with boss name) to show you that monks PvE are beast. sure its harder, but some people enjoy that.... i know i do o.O you saying that monks need a rebalance is just a slap in the face : / go play BLM if you just wanna see big #s
    you can start with your rotation
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  6. #176
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    Risbyn Marujido
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    A lot of people in this thread that are saying that Monks are bad in PvE have little to no endgame experience. I've done everything from Ifrit all the way to Turn 5 on Monk. We just cleared turns 1-4 again today and did a Titan party for some random pug. One shotted everything and I made sure to record the DPS meter. Monks are a very high skill ceiling DPS that takes a lot of work to play. If you are not up to par, play Bard. I will not say that Bard takes no skill, quite the contrary, but it's easier and a lot more forgiving compared to Monk.

    Let's start with a simple baseline fight. Titan

    Titan DPS

    Then moving onto Turn 1 snake fight.
    Turn 1: Caduceus DPS

    *Bard here fed the snakes slimes before the split and just DPS'd the rest of the time. The Black Mage had to kite one slime to the snake. I've had to move out of the way during the split so the tanks could get them into position without me getting in the way of the frontal cone.

    Then finally the Turn 4 fight which will test your group to the limit.
    Turn 4: Elevator DPS

    *This is a highly mobile fight where you are moving from wave to wave of mobs.

    As you can see, Monk is very competitive in almost every single piece of endgame there is. Even before I had gotten my first couple ilvl 90 Allagan, Monk has put up consistent results. People saying that Monks are bad have not posted any solid evidence. I've posted my evidence to the contrary. So please, feel free to keep saying Monks are bad, I won't say no to a buff!
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    Last edited by Risbyn; 09-24-2013 at 01:13 PM.

  7. #177
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    InayaHotek's Avatar
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    Shoraki Hotek
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 78
    SHH Risbyn, stop giving people the idea that we are actually the BEST DPS CLASS END GAME. They need to continue thinking we are weak and broken so they keep complaining and give us a buff to make us even stronger. lul
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  8. #178
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    enil's Avatar
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    Mirri Weatherlight
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Risbyn View Post
    DPS
    Any chance of getting a detailed parse of your own damage? Your gear is pretty insane (multi-melded HQ crafted items) and monk scaling atm is the best in the game. Your crit rate in these parses seems very high as well, even with Bootshine and Internal release a 25% crit rate seems super high.
    What food do you use?
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  9. #179
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    roflcaust's Avatar
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    Gooby Pls
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Rysbyn is right: MNKs can be competitive in quite a few fights. But we need a few tweaks and some polish to really become consistently competitive.

    PS - please indicate if you used LB in those fights. Because if you did, we need to subtract 25-30 DPS on each of those values.
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  10. #180
    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FreyjaMists View Post
    here OP lets fucking leave it here, stop playing the class, you've seen how many people say the class is fine its just your rotation? i can start posting every single boss parser (with boss name) to show you that monks PvE are beast. sure its harder, but some people enjoy that.... i know i do o.O you saying that monks need a rebalance is just a slap in the face : / go play BLM if you just wanna see big #s
    Surre you're the best DPS w/o even having proper full DL and/or Relic +1
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