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    JokingCat's Avatar
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    there is no way a monk can beat a bard in dps right you can test it with parse
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    Mirri Weatherlight
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    there is no way a monk can beat a bard in dps right you can test it with parse
    Personal anecdotes are useless for everyone.
    There's another Monk in this thread saying the exact opposite of you, that monk is competitive and all the way through to turn 5 in coil, but he provided some base numbers (DPS on turn 4) whereas you provide nothing.
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    i can bring results for AK runs and CM speed runs.

    cant do it for coil becouse no one is looking for monk for coil even dragoons having trouble but partys take dragoon over monk. Server cerberus.
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    Ferric Oxide
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    i can bring results for AK runs and CM speed runs.

    cant do it for coil becouse no one is looking for monk for coil even dragoons having trouble but partys take dragoon over monk. Server cerberus.
    Lel.

    /10char
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    Drk_Syde's Avatar
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    Zeid Balrog
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    i can bring results for AK runs and CM speed runs.

    cant do it for coil becouse no one is looking for monk for coil even dragoons having trouble but partys take dragoon over monk. Server cerberus.
    I Parsed two AK runs last night. One with a relic +1 brd full DL with some i90 and a Relic +1 Blm with full dl = some I90. We parsed nearly dead even with me slightly edging them out by literally under 1000 dmg. 1000 dmg out of a total of 500,000+ dmg total. Im in full DL w/ 2i90 pieces and just Relic weapon I dont even have B4B yet lol. (lving LNC now ugh)

    Only thing I could see that we maybe need to do increase our endgame utility is an increased GL duration or only losing one stack at a time of GL, instead of it all.

    also for everyone whining about "Monk can't find party /cry /cry" Have you never played FFxi? It's not illegal for you to... wait for it... wait for it... *Gasp!*... start your own party? Fun! Excitement! you can have this!
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    "They bud me take my place among them. In the halls of Valhalla. Where the brave may live forever..."

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    Blizz Bear
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Greetings. I think, that monks are the weakest DPS class in the game. For example my critical hits on level 50 with GC-weapon and some DL gear are almost always beyond 300 (260-280). Dragoons make much more damage and have very good AoE- monk not. Yes, I know about Dragon kick and Greeased lightning and yes- Im playing only monk and know this class rather good. So, I want developers rebalance monks and some of their skills- for example skill "Shoulder Tackle" is very stupid and unusable because of it LONG cool down and stupid condition of use. Thank you
    Are you even utilizing a set rotation to switch forms CORRECTLY and moving from behind and flank on fights? You're gimping yourself otherwise. As said previously, you are meant to put out quick, rapid-fire damage. If you're interested in seeing big numbers in pretty lights, roll a BLK Mage or Dragoon (But before you do I'd advise you to re-look at skill/spell speed and cast times)
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    Ulric Delkin
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by NRhodes View Post
    Are you even utilizing a set rotation to switch forms CORRECTLY and moving from behind and flank on fights? You're gimping yourself otherwise. As said previously, you are meant to put out quick, rapid-fire damage. If you're interested in seeing big numbers in pretty lights, roll a BLK Mage or Dragoon (But before you do I'd advise you to re-look at skill/spell speed and cast times)
    Yes, I know monk's skills pretty good
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    Neo Anderson
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JokingCat View Post
    i can bring results for AK runs and CM speed runs.

    cant do it for coil becouse no one is looking for monk for coil even dragoons having trouble but partys take dragoon over monk. Server cerberus.
    Completly agree monk is very hard to find a group. People are not fool. They know which job is strong. monk has very less population at moment but still very hard to find group.
    I will call design fail on monk. Here is the order for which job is easy find group at end game content.
    whm=snm>pal>bard>snm>Blm>war>dragoon>monk

    If you are the monk who haven't get relic weapon yet. I would suggest you don't try.go other class. in the Titan hard, most time monk show lowest DPS. come people play monk get half DPS as bard did with equity gear.
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    Ritz Blitz
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    Here is the order for which job is easy find group at end game content.
    whm=snm>pal>bard>snm>Blm>war>dragoon>monk
    For those that have end-game experience, is this guy right or just overstating his opinion?
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by xRitzx View Post
    For those that have end-game experience, is this guy right or just overstating his opinion?
    He's wrong. WHM = SCH, not SMN.
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