Quote Originally Posted by Bizzybeast View Post
I strongly disagree, FF11 wasnt a better system. Personally I thought Market Wards and player Bazaar was the perfect system, but many complained about it for some reason. Most of which now cry about being undercut. Well you made it happen.
You fail to explain why it isn't better. But taking by what you say below, and the fact you don't explain yourself, I'll mark it down as no real good reason why you think this.

As to undercutting, some of you need to get off the high horse. I keep seeing this "Item value" thrown around, there is such a thing. At the bottom of the item it tells you what it sells to the vendor for. Thats the items value. On the market, you need to find the buyer's value. I was the first 50 ARM/BSM on my server and had an intricate part in forming the market. Using /shout and the market, I did just fine. What I didnt do was buy everything I needed from the market, then turn around and think the item made was worth ONLY the price I paid for its mats. This is why so many of you are crying, you need to network better and find sources of cheaper mats.
This makes absolutely no sense, and is totally illogical. No offense. #1 Those vendor prices are put in there so people have a reason to sell it on the market, if those prices were at the items actual "value" then hardly anyone would sell stuff on the market, and most would just sell it to the NPC for quick gil. You seriously think a lvl 50 Item is worth only 100 gil? You have got to be trolling me.

That being said most crafters don't buy mats from the Market. Me included. I get everything I need from gathering and killing the mobs I need too.

So when you sit here and say, it doesnt sell for 10k, I get undercut.. I wonder why YOU and YOUR item are so special? Why do you, and only you, deserve to sell at 1000% profit ranges? And the people who go lower then you are evil, greedy, douchebags? Honestly if someone steps on my market (like Mythril ingots), I chase them out by listing 5 ingots for the price of one of theirs. They always get the point. When people cut my crafted gear, for instance Goblin Longsword, I do not lower my prices. I raise theirs.
Nice attempt, but again, completely illogical and doesn't make any sense. The whole point of the post is to keep prices stable. Undercutting is going to happen, and no you can't "raise other peoples prices", either that was a completely fail attempt at making your point, or your completely oblivious to whats going on around you. If you put 5 items up for the same price as someone elses, what do they care? If you keep your prices high? great, nobody will buy it. People will keep undercutting you. Have fun watching it not sell. That's how it is. Regardless of what smoke you try to blow.


I'm going to skip the rest of the stuff as its either mindless gibbering or something which doesn't even apply.