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  1. 09-22-2013 08:43 AM #1
    Duelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Thank goodness simplicity has nothing to do with effectiveness. Leave your WAR BS at the door, this isn't the thread for you to continue your crying in, you have many threads to do so in already.
    The OP and majority of the first page tries to paint WAR as better design because it has "more buttons to push" and whatnot. What they're asking for is stuff added for the sake of having stuff added rather than because the job needs it. PLD is fine as is with the only change it really needs (at the most) being taking Shield Swipe off the GCD so that it can be rotated with Spirits Within and Circle of Scorn.

    I'm not about to agree to the potential ruination of another class I happen to like just because some people feel they aren't pushing enough buttons. I've already seen where that line of thinking leads.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)
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  2. 09-22-2013 10:01 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    The OP and majority of the first page tries to paint WAR as better design because it has "more buttons to push" and whatnot.
    I have no idea where you got that implication.

    I made it very clear that Paladin is balanced and is in a good spot.
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  3. 09-22-2013 07:03 PM #3
    Duelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaya View Post
    I made it very clear that Paladin is balanced and is in a good spot.
    My reaction was more to the first page, as mentioned in my above post (not to mention I take issue with the OP's premise).

    If you tell me "PLD is in a good spot", I'll wholeheartedly agree with you because it is. It has a very solid design that gets the job done and feels like a tank with good mechanics (certainly head and shoulders above 1.0's PLD).
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)
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