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  1. #31
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    Nipaah's Avatar
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    Pips Nipaah
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    The thing that bugs me the most is that your target enemy isn't give max priority to be rendered in the world. Everytime I try to do Odin or behemoth I get to target them for 2-3 seconds before they vanish.. If you have an enemy targeted it should have max priority and NEVER stop being rendered just to show some useless player that you're not gonna interact with... Only players Ineed to see are the ones in my party.
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  2. #32
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    Rivienne's Avatar
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    Rivienne Bertouaint
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 36
    Quote Originally Posted by cfStatic View Post
    People go to auction houses IRL all the time to have their stuff auctioned off, and they collect their item if it doesn't meet the minimum bid or their money if it sold from the same people, minus a cut for their services..
    Uhmm. Yeah.. But... I think you are missing something here. I get you don't entirely care about the world environment with this, but in the real world they do this by interacting with other people, as in, the people who run the auction house. Who then do the selling/money management. The only time someone doesn't interact with the people at the auction house is when they send someone to act as Retainer for them... Just like in game. You can't avoid interaction and responsibility. Either you have to interact with someone else who does it for you, or you have to take the responsibility of doing it yourself. Make sense?

    I mean when you really look at close, the whole purpose of this games design is to be immersive, you have to interact with people be they real or npc, so the system of selling is supposed to make sense from that stance as well. An automated (well, honestly "magic" is the best way I can think to describe it) board that manages your sales and money for you doesn't make sense in the world environment as it stands.

    Quote Originally Posted by cfStatic View Post
    It doesn't have to go to your pocket book directly. It could be mailed or you could simply go back to the market board to collect your gil.
    Okay, but that still requires a go-between with someone. Be it a delivery moogle, or a person at the auction house to give you the money.. So still haven't lost the retainer on this end, just maybe replaced it with the moogle or a different npc you have to go to, instead of who can come to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by cfStatic View Post
    You just merge the retainer selling stuff for you into the market board/switch it to an AH and remove the whole step of having to go to the inn room to summons someone to sell something for you.
    You do realize the primary place for summoning the retainer is right by the market boards? Doing so in the Inn is exactly what you describe as a solution a rich person in U'ldah would want, so they don't have to actually go down to the markets themselves. If you do away with the retainer, but somehow merge with the market boards, then now instead of being able to do the selling from your Inn, you would have to take the added step of going to the actual market and interacting with the board anyway. So it actually is less convenient in that sense.

    Anyway, I don't mean to be argumentative, but I just don't see a way they could get rid of the retainer without making the system more complicated for the player, or breaking world immersion.
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    Last edited by Rivienne; 09-21-2013 at 08:26 PM. Reason: I talk to much.

  3. #33
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    Hawklaser's Avatar
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    Kyterra Lianleaf
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by cfStatic View Post
    You just merge the retainer selling stuff for you into the market board/switch it to an AH and remove the whole step of having to go to the inn room to summons someone to sell something for you.
    You could do that, then you likely get the whole mess of not having your storage and selling locations combined like they are now. I rather like that I can go store all my stuff quickly, and look up the prices of various things I want to sell without having to run to the market board at all during the process. Most other games have the two separated, so unless it is something you just farmed you often have to make a trip to your storage and back to sell something after seeing if it is worth listing at that time. Only time ever need to touch the actual market board is when you are doing pre-gathering research or are looking to buy something.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rivienne View Post
    Anyway, I don't mean to be argumentative, but I just don't see a way they could get rid of the retainer without making the system more complicated for the player, or breaking world immersion.
    It used to actually be more complex in v1 than it is currently too. Used to have special zones just for the markets, where peoples retainers actually stood around waiting to sell the items, and no search feature at the start either, so one manually had to go search through a sea of retainers just to find what they were looking for.
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  4. #34
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    Hexy's Avatar
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    Hexy Kaze
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    If I may add, I find it rather annoying that I don't auto-dismount when I click on an NPC or start attacking a mob. I'm horrible at remembering to click my mount button to dismount, it always trips me up when I'm running FATE groups.
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  5. #35
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    Konrad Curze
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    Exodus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    I wish I could "like" the OP a thousand times a thousand times. All are valid complaints that need to be fixed. Not being able to use your bird while waiting in DF is insane. I also as a melee character only truly hate and despise how casters classes can spam AoE in FATES and there is NOTHING I can do to keep up with them tagging all the mobs before I can even swing once at it.
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  6. #36
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    Rite Neow
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    Adamantoise
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    so you're wanting it to be exactly like 1.0 on the zones.
    No. I said cities, mostly. Having to zone three times inside a city to reach a fairly uncommon area is pretty silly. You're comparing the wilderness and combat areas to the areas which are extremely out-of-the-way in a city, where it makes little sense as to why we need to zone, in order to reach a zone, in order to reach a zone. We know it's done to make it possible for ... lower ... capable hardware to handle it.
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