Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

[Moonwood]

Edit:
Also, to all the players claiming Yoshi acknowledges this problem, what do you expect him to say? "You guys just suck."... Of course he's not going to outright say that.. He's going to spoon feed you the answers you want, it's bad business practices to do anything else.

1. You are a troll.
2. I suspect you are being babysit by people ahah. You probably don't do any damage, you are focusing to put your ass safe and cast 1 or 2 spells. Unfortunately people which make the fight for you have issue because they do make the damage you don't. That's why they get stuck from the bad refreshment, they keep casting. And the game fail to overlook their position.
Do care about making something in battle, then come back. And don't give me the lame excuse "I'm doing something". You can't even open your eyes and acknowledge problem when you see it. Can't expect a fake elitist to do proper gameplay!

[Silverwalk]

They kind of lied about removing animation locks. Animations locks seem to be still there but it's no longer called animation locks. It's more like a positional lock, where if your character is still doing animations that started in the AoE outside of it when the casting has finished then they will still get hit because they are still being registered as being inside the AoE.

I watched this video really closely and that's what I saw. People who have defeated Titan have already come up with a way to bypass this and it is to try to cast another spell when you've gotten out the AoE ability or just dont cast anything at all and just run out of it.

Yes i think that's true. I've suggested that a simple way to fix the problem would be for the client to send a position update when the player crosses the AoE boundary, which has the same affect as what you're describing.

It would probably solve the problem for a lot of people.

[-Magister]

Yes i think that's true. I've suggested that a simple way to fix the problem would be for the client to send a position update when the player crosses the AoE boundary, which has the same affect as what you're describing.

It would probably solve the problem for a lot of people.

It almost seems as though we have enough people on threads like this alone that could figure out how to code this better, or network it better that there is no reason we should not hear something about this issue.

P.S. To people saying honesty is bad marketing, it sure is, but silence is worse marketing; Market wise it would be best to come out every couple of months and say they are working on it and post a bunch of BS jargon that will keep people thinking "Ok, ONE MORE MONTH and I am unsubbing!" Instead silence has made people start thinking "Well, this is not going to be fixed, I'm not alone, time to find a new game.". Or fix the problem..

[complexxL9]

Yeah, pretty much this~ It's like the people who d/c while playing then log on and blame it on the servers.. when everyone else is connected just fine. But don't tell them it might be their ISP, they'll s**t a brick and throw a fit. Threads like these are just bad players playing bad. The thing is though, SE will cater to them and they will nerf Titan, then they'll start complaining about how hard stuff hits in the coil, or start complaining that you need to stack specific jobs in coil turn 4, it will never end.

Ignorance is strong with this one.

We don't need a nerf, we don't need longer cast times. If there were no problems, it would be impossible for your dead body to lie outside the wieght of the land area. Period.

[Fuz]

I like the game a lot, and I think they did an amazing job rebuilding it so much better from 1.0.

But I won't be subscribing.
I won't because of the terrible lag and impossibility to avoid AoE and because of the terrible, old, outdated and frustrating RNG loot system (at the moment, I've over 60 kills on Ifrit and 18 on Garuda - not a single lance ever dropped. I know people who have more runs than me).

I will surely subscribe when those problems are fixed.
Until then, I'd play some other MMO. And I hope they fix them before I lose interest and start playing something else.

[Nexxa]

I like the game a lot, and I think they did an amazing job rebuilding it so much better from 1.0.

But I won't be subscribing.
I won't because of the terrible lag and impossibility to avoid AoE and because of the terrible, old, outdated and frustrating RNG loot system (at the moment, I've over 60 kills on Ifrit and 18 on Garuda - not a single lance ever dropped. I know people who have more runs than me).

I will surely subscribe when those problems are fixed.
Until then, I'd play some other MMO. And I hope they fix them before I lose interest and start playing something else.

This is how the majority of my LSs and FCs feel. Really hoping SE gets their act together because I really want to like this game.

[Livi]

There's no problem here. Its working as intended. Its not the animation that register hit, its the AOE and the cast bar.

If you're still inside the AOE when the cast bar finish, i'll get hit. Otherwise it will be a super easy game because the animation of AOE move is super slow. You want to beat hard content, just learn and play better instead of making a thread and complaining about how the game doesnt work as you want.

The only issue i see is people want the fight easy, too many casual players think about getting relic weapon is a right and justice without paying hard work. When they're bad they'll make a thread and complain instead of more training and win the fight.

Please stop asking for an easier game.

[complexxL9]

There's no problem here. Its working as intended. Its not the animation that register hit, its the AOE and the cast bar.

If you're still inside the AOE when the cast bar finish, i'll get hit. Otherwise it will be a super easy game because the animation of AOE move is super slow. You want to beat hard content, just learn and play better instead of making a thread and complaining about how the game doesnt work as you want.

The only issue i see is people want the fight easy, too many casual players think about getting relic weapon is a right and justice without paying hard work. When they're bad they'll make a thread and complain instead of more training and win the fight.

Please stop asking for an easier game.

Do you feel a better player now? Ok, now go away.

[Saerie]

Bla bla bla one more poster that doesn't really know what the problem is.

Uhh, I guess you're one of the people who didn't actually read this thread again are you?
There are pictures / videos that are showing people out of the AOE's while the cast bar isn't finished yet. My God, people needs to stop posting in this thread if they aren't gonna read the
real problem that is happening. Can you show me a post that is asking for the fights to be nerfed or made easy? why do all of you people say we want the fights to be easier? maybe you guys are the one who wants it to be easier since you people are the one bringing this up >_>.

Why are people so Ignorant?

[Sneakaboo]

Wait are you claiming that getting the relic weapon is actually something not casual?


Truth is that when you design a game around a 0.3 delay you cap the difficulty.
By having this you remove certain reflex aspects of MMO's.
You simply can't have mechanics that require a certain speed because the server can't update that fast.

We can all agree that if you would remove the 300ms Titan (and other bosses) would be a complete push over.
The poor coding is making fights more challenging than that they really are.


When you are allowed to run before an ability hits it just shows that the DD and HPS check is low and that the mechanics are to predictable.
In some way you could say it encourages 'bad play' since most mmo's punish this type of behaviour by either wiping the raid or making it hard to hit an enrage timer.

A realm reborn sacrifices a lot of fun raid concepts for the sake of server checks, when latency is the biggest challenge on encounters you went some where wrong during your game design.
Latency should be something people should not experience much up to 250 ms.
I've also no idea why they can't sync the cast of bosses, it looks bad.

That said titan with 450 ping is still doable ,if you can run properly you don't even need to pre run.
The biggest issue I've seen on titan has been the lag spikes killing people , caused because of the duty finder being over loaded.
It says enough the queues are so long for an instance, most modern games don't have this.


It's a shame some people still want to talk the latency right, since in the end you are asking for an easier game with less complicated/reflex based mechanics.
Just because it sounds 'pro' to play a game with a build in 300ms on top of your own latency.