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  1. #51
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeikial View Post
    the influx of the ps3 player, yes I know not all are like that but majority are. this community is not the worse, go play dcuo, and visit that forum board lol,
    No, don't even blame the PS3 players - There are FAR more horrendous PC players in terms of attitude and playstyle - Which community started the phrase 'Master Race' as an idiotic joke and sometimes in a serious manner? PC gamers or console gamers? Go visit PC only MMOs and think back to the CS and BF (PC) prime days.

    I am much inclined to agree..this community really isn't good, even worse than what ended up in 1.0 since even then people at least had to deal with their own server community and reputations mattered. People said the Duty Finder would be the magical fixall! :\ People say Tera's is the worst now that it's F2P but..I haven't ran into people who pull the crap here that they do there yet lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by rubina View Post
    How is OP supposed to know which server that player originated from?
    Write down the name > Search Lodestone > Make a character there or use the CS > Report. I've done it for a few griefers and actually seen them end up banned at least temporarily considering they were complaining here before their topic got deleted about an "unfair ban". The only reason this won't work sometimes if if they use a name like Naruto Uzumaki or Uzumaki Naruto.
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    Last edited by Jennestia; 09-20-2013 at 11:15 PM.

  2. #52
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    Darkhaund's Avatar
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    Darkhaund Krull
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I think that the DF does indeed promote a lack of respecto and selfishness by some players.
    There is nothing we can do about this since i dont think SE will remove it
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  3. #53
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    Ryios Locke
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    Gladiator Lv 68
    The duty finder breeds tank/healer corruption. DPs wait on them to que and they get instant or nearly instant ques. It's only natural for some tanks to take advantage of this system. The problem isn't really the duty finder though, it's human nature. That tank is the kind of person that would go a a public event just to get something for free and then leave without contributing anything. However the duty finder is designed in such a way that human nature can surface.

    Imo, chests should spawn after you clear the last boss and you should have to backtrack to get them all. Let's say chests are under a cloak and killing the last boss removes the cloak.
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  4. #54
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    Claudus Stormguard
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I was in the last 8 man dungeon ( the last one needed for the main story) and basically some people wanted to watch the cut scenes and the healer got mad and left b/c of this...then the whole party got into a fight and the tank refused to move...yeah DF is shi**y
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  5. #55
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    Carpe Noctum
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    all SE needs do to ensure the OP's scenario never happens again is make chests linked to a boss mob - meaning a chest that is linked to a boss mob can not be opened till the boss mob it's linked to is dead

    all SE needs do to ensure no one passes trash mobs and goes straight to boss mobs is to make the boss mobs linked to the trash mobs near them - meaning a boss mob can not be engaged until all the trash mobs that are linked to it are dead

    all MECHANICAL duty finder problems solved

    for all "ATTITUDE" duty finder problems, SE is going to TRY to solve those by giving out "MVP" points to players whom get "voted up" by other players in duty finder

    players may only "vote up" RANDOM players in duty finder - if players queue with a party, they MAY NOT "vote up" them - players MAY NOT "vote up" themselves, ither

    every "vote up" will give a player an "MVP" point - there will be a CAP on how many TOTAL times players can "vote up" players PER DAY and players may only "vote up" EACH player ONCE per day

    players can "vote up" other players for any reason they want to, but the working theory is that players will only "vote up" a player that is helpful and/or kind and never "vote up" players that are trolling and/or mean

    "MVP" points can be spent on many items such as mounts, minions, etc...
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    Last edited by Crica; 09-21-2013 at 12:05 AM.

  6. #56
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    all SE needs do to ensure the OP's scenario never happens again is make chests linked to a boss - meaning a chest that is linked to a boss can not be opened till the boss it's linked to is dead

    problem solved
    Random Chest (Job specific accessories, Allagan Coins, Pet chests) - Clear the room it's located in/Clear the "miniboss" kind of like the Coeurl in Brayflox is technically guarding it.
    Loot Chests - Move everything (Relic bases, armor, accessories etc) to a second boss chest drop (since some bosses only drop 1 chest still.)

    Then problem is certainly solved, since people like that would just leave after the first boss if they got their weapon after the first easy boss. Hell no matter what they do people will find a way to do crap like this :\
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  7. #57
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    I was the tank. Kim was the healer.

    This is the whole reason I've been pushing for same-server-only matching function (in addition to cross server default) since beta. But Yohi-P had been adamant that all he wants is efficiency of forming a party. He doesn't care about what experiences we have in the Duty Finder. Just the numbers.

    Lack of accountability is the key deficiency. Hopefully the 2.1 LFG board would alleviate it for some of us who value quality more than efficiency.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I turn off party chat.
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  9. #59
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    I had a duty finder troll experience a few days ago in Aurum Vale with a BLM named Aeer Kahyet. I always mark the mobs for my party, but this BLM decided to mark them for me by using the other signs that weren't numbers at all. Every time I would try to mark my mob he would immediately change it. Poor Archer in the party was so confused. So yeah...I agree that Duty Finder just makes everyone feel like they can be a troll/ass to someone just because they won't ever see us again. I'm all for making a world wide shitlist.
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    Last edited by Axel_Ward; 09-21-2013 at 12:14 AM.

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    Mayin Avantari
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Things SE can do:

    1) Do not allow chest opening until certain mobs are killed
    2) Award end of dungeon loot (tomes) only to people that actually participate in all bosses (from the participants point of entry, in case they join mid-dungeon)
    3) Boss chest loot only lottable by participants in the boss battle
    If that happens I'll never help by joining as a tank midway through dungeons ever again.
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