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  1. #141
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    ish007xx's Avatar
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    Ish Khan
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperChris View Post
    If watching them at the inn was an acceptable substitute, why am I even paying for this game? I could just go on youtube and watch them.

    And again, you're assuming that everyone's going to run this dungeon more than once. That isn't the case.
    It is for a fact that they will be running the dungeon more than once. I myself after beating it the 1st time i said to myself i would never go back there cause of how long it took and to even find it in DF, but after a couple runs over and over, due to farming for tomes it gets alot easier and u do run into a few new players now and again and even they are glad to just run through it quick to get on with their storyline. The 1st i did it as well i just skipped the CS to be polite and to not hold back the team.This situation can be good and bad its how u approach it
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  2. #142
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    Leonas's Avatar
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Long story short. If you DF Prae/CM be prepared to wait around a little bit. Relax, theres no hurry, unless you plan to not sub. Then well, theres no point in hurrying for you.

    I agree, cutscenes should not activate if there is an active fight going on, and when they activate, everyone should be locked in a little cow pen just like at the start of any regular dungeon. If you want people to skip cutscenes, thats what premade parties are for. Joining DF and complaining about lore lovers watching cutscenes in a story driven game is like complaining about getting wet after jumping off a boat in the middle of the ocean.
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    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
    When Good and Evil,
    Unite in pain.
    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

  3. #143
    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    Zyeriis Damerais
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by homunyan View Post
    It gets bad once you get to level 50. I did the final main story dungeon tonight and some overgeared (this guy had a bunch of raid-level gear) tank kept complaining and going ahead and my friend and I ended up completely missing the final boss fight of the main story because we were watching the lead up cutscene and he and his buddies weren't patient or polite enough to wait a couple minutes.
    If you're referring to the literal final boss in Praetorium, you really didn't miss anything. That fight is a complete joke.
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  4. #144
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    Brises's Avatar
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    Brises Ravenheart
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Slambo View Post
    Good thing you have no idea what you're talking about. Level 33. I heal full time and I will lock you out for watching cutscenes. Get used to it.
    If you bump into me, there will be a few of us from the same FC, and we wait for each other. So you better be a really good healer.
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  5. #145
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Brises View Post
    If you bump into me, there will be a few of us from the same FC, and we wait for each other. So you better be a really good healer.
    Mmmm.. I'd just sit back and enjoy my free ride if people are impatient enough to start without me. This is coming from someone that does skip cutscenes, but doesn't insist or rush others to do the same. I've just seen ti way too many times. Old age makes me patient I guess.
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    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
    When Good and Evil,
    Unite in pain.
    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

  6. #146
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    SuperChris's Avatar
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    Tenko Leafgreen
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    Zalera
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ish007xx View Post
    It is for a fact that they will be running the dungeon more than once. I myself after beating it the 1st time i said to myself i would never go back there cause of how long it took and to even find it in DF, but after a couple runs over and over, due to farming for tomes it gets alot easier and u do run into a few new players now and again and even they are glad to just run through it quick to get on with their storyline. The 1st i did it as well i just skipped the CS to be polite and to not hold back the team.This situation can be good and bad its how u approach it
    No, there really are people that will not run the dungeon more than once, because some people have no interest in getting on the gear treadmill. When I finish the last story dungeon, I will either level another job, or play another game.
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  7. #147
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    If you're referring to the literal final boss in Praetorium, you really didn't miss anything. That fight is a complete joke.
    Doesn't matter if its easy or not, people paid with their hard earned money and time to enjoy the climax to this games storyline. For them to miss out on the final boss after working hard to get to level 50 is very unfortunate and I'm sure SE and Yoshi P want to draw new players to this game not deter them from continuing because they had a bad experience in the last dungeon thanks to speeders and selfish impatient people who only think about their progress and use people as a leg up instead of helping them pass the dungeon with teamwork.

    At this very time it is almost impossible to watch the lead up CS to the final fight and be included in the fight before you get the CS of the last boss dying. This boss battle is broken and the only way to enjoy this dungeon is if you can get your linkshell/FC to do it with you. A lot of times people who want to just enjoy the storyline are in low level linkshells and FCs and not many can help them progress.
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    Last edited by LoLo; 09-20-2013 at 09:16 PM.

  8. #148
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    Z3M0G's Avatar
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    Tarek Darichian
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Brises View Post
    Anyone who doesn't like the randomness of other players should probably be playing single player games.
    Or at least getting into a Linkshell with other like-minded people who are at the point where they are grinding dungeons and skipping the cutscenes... coordinating runs with them without worries about new people who would like to watch the cutscenes.

    People who are rushing the dungeons shouldn't be using duty finder at all, and should be shouting and coordinating Linkshell groups.
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  9. #149
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    Guillaume-Tell's Avatar
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    Guillaume Tell
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 50
    The only problem here is that the party may be stuck while at least 1 player is watching a CS :
    1. Stuck in a circle
    2. Player who is watching CS cannot join a boss fight 15 seconds after the first aggro

    SE could handle the 2 different cases and that's all.

    The only problem is when it's the Tanks/Healers who are watching CS, the party must wait but there is no solution here.
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  10. #150
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    Spiffier's Avatar
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    Character
    Oyster Chowder
    World
    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 34
    The easiest fix for the skip/don't skip situation while using Duty Finder is to have a "skip cutscenes"/"Regular" choice in the Duty Finder itself.

    If it's your first time or you don't mind while other people watch the cutscenes, you pick "Regular". If all you want to do is run the dungeon as fast as you can then you pick "Skip cutscenes".

    This makes sure that people are with like minded-people and removes one place where drama can crop up.
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