Crafters making money off other crafters

[Tyndles]

Sorry to burst your bubble but you dont make any money off lvl 50 crafting..

lol. it might not be as much as people want, but I make PLENTY off militia gear, because people want the IV materia.

[Felis]

As a fisher, i make money of other fishers.
I look what fishes i need for leves, buy them in the AH for 3 or 6 gil the piece and earn 250 gil and more with the leve.
I leveled up my fisher from 42 to 43 without fishing

[Comicbookguy]

ALC lv. 42 here. It's pretty bad already. I don't understand peoples pricing methods. Alot of the items I see on the MB are cheaper than the ingredients that make it by a long shot. I don't have a gathering class that higher either to farm my own mats.

Same here. Alc 43 and I have stopped leveling since I can't sell anything. I can make more money selling the mats.

[NefarioCall]

Sorry to burst your bubble but you dont make any money off lvl 50 crafting..

I've made over 10mil from Level 50 crafting so far. The bubble will burst, but right this moment. Oodles of gil.

In 95% of all MMO's crafting is just a time and cost sink until you hit max level. This is one of the reasons you see people sell below cost. They are trying to minimize the loss of getting to the highest level.

Except for the rare MMO like Eve, don't expect to make anything from crafting until you hit 50. Even then, with a lot of MMO's it isn't until the first or second major content patch that crafters really become valuable. Most MMO's prioritize non-crafting elements (for obvious reasons) and crafters don't usually start getting attention until after several patches.

I am not saying its the way it should be, but it is the way it almost always is.

^^ This, at least to the best of my knowledge. Priorities. Obvious reasons being that there isn't time to get everything done properly in time for launch. ... so ... priorities.

[ish007xx]

Well for me im in the business of farming and selling shards and i can personally say the price for 35-40 per shard to 15-18 in a matter of 3 days is amazing, the influx of players doing this on the market just to get a quick sell is so stupid. They are killing the market and have no idea what and how to play in the market.If they would just keep the prices at a steady price the items will sell but there will always be that fool that wants to screw with the market lol

[Synvul]

I don't know about any of this. I am sad to see read someone saw a statement from Yoshi P that Land and Hand are less important. That is why I wanted to play this game. I enjoyed 1.0 crafting even as it drove me crazy. I do most everything myself. Might take me forever but I don't mind gathering my own stuff. If I spend the evening gathering so I can have a huge stack of mats then that is what I will do. I never thought about it for making money. I appreciate the post as it makes me realize that I need to change that thinking so I can afford housing.

[Felis]

Maybe it would help if crafted gear is different than quested gear.
Something like 1 materia slot more for crafted gear.

[Kantide]

I don't know about any of this. I am sad to see read someone saw a statement from Yoshi P that Land and Hand are less important. That is why I wanted to play this game. I enjoyed 1.0 crafting even as it drove me crazy. I do most everything myself. Might take me forever but I don't mind gathering my own stuff. If I spend the evening gathering so I can have a huge stack of mats then that is what I will do. I never thought about it for making money. I appreciate the post as it makes me realize that I need to change that thinking so I can afford housing.

I don't think he stated that they would be less important as a whole and that the one that would be less needed would be fishing, primarily because of RMT using it to abuse the system in 1.0. I've read most interviews and watched all letters and I don't recall that being said anywhere. I've made profit from crafting but I guess it just depends on how the market is on your server. Personally, I think that until things even out, and they probably won't for another few weeks, we will see drastic price fluctuations while the economy fixes itself.

[OrionInerghem]

Crafting/Gathering is just wow useless in this game.
I've maxed out almost all crafts/gathering, have HQ AF melded (I at least bought the materia early when it was still 10k, now 50k+)


It's just such a messy Economy. It's designed so crystals+gear repair/materia are consistently the limiting factor.
2 things I've noticed:
1) Crystals are horribly annoying; making any trash recipies should be dying down a lot, going through 20-30 Crystals for one 50 recipe.
Eventually the money just isn't going to be worth it, In the mean time I see less than 1k for so many 50 things.

2)DoW/DoM are extremely without any need of crafting & gathering. I know this is Yoshi's 1st MMO, but the view that DoW/DoM should get everything handed to them without any interaction with the the other half (Craft/gather) Is just such a poor idea I don't know where to start.
Here we are 3 weeks from Launch, and the Economy is settled so low that most items are just given away on the market.

The only real limiting factor eventually is going to be teleport costs (does it cost more to teleport out and gather? yes: go get it yourself. No: buy it on the market
Teleports are 100-500gil, Which means eventually most players consistant income will be based on grinding Leve's everyday.....

The idea makes me extremely turned off at the game... Leve's are horribly boring, monotonous, and 1-2k each if lucky.

[silverhope]

The Militia gear on cactuar server sells for less than the mats cost so its not a money maker at all.