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  1. #31
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    casker's Avatar
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    Ast Rid
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    Last night the booty finder put me in a group with another monk. I hate the thought of having to roll against another person but I usually just deal with it. He was wearing AF gear, which again I can deal with, if maybe they have a decent weapon. Nope. Peisteskin Cesti. Another guy says "man...I wish you'd update your jewelry." I check him out, he had a level 15 necklace. 15. Of course he didn't know the fight either and expected everyone to just explain it to him. How can people think this is acceptable?!
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    yes, extra +1/2/3 stat on higher jewelry will make all the difference in the world
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  3. #33
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    Last night the booty finder put me in a group with another monk. I hate the thought of having to roll against another person but I usually just deal with it. He was wearing AF gear, which again I can deal with, if maybe they have a decent weapon. Nope. Peisteskin Cesti. Another guy says "man...I wish you'd update your jewelry." I check him out, he had a level 15 necklace. 15. Of course he didn't know the fight either and expected everyone to just explain it to him. How can people think this is acceptable?!
    What's wrong with having to explain a fight? What's wrong with someone being new? You were new once, too.

    The other nonsense is not acceptable, but being new and having to have the fight explained to him is normal.
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  4. #34
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    Xyos Soma
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    Oh I can relate here I was running AK the other day. Something felt off with the heals and damage we were dealing. I examine my party. The Healer has no necklace, LITERALLY LEVEL 1 RINGS, and level 30 pants. The DPS has a level 40 something weapon, and NO RINGS.

    Now I know accessories are not HUGE, but they do give stats and some extra oomph. I hate to be one of those guys who examines everyone then leaves, but in that case I had to, no way we would beat the dungeon the way we were progressing, and believe me I tried with them. GOt up Demon wall but they kept wiping.
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  5. #35
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    that +3 on 5 pieces is +15, which is more noticeable than people seem to think. I'm not saying perfect gear, but it definitely does a lot more than credit is given.
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    Tear Grant
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Oh I can relate here I was running AK the other day. Something felt off with the heals and damage we were dealing. I examine my party. The Healer has no necklace, LITERALLY LEVEL 1 RINGS, and level 30 pants. The DPS has a level 40 something weapon, and NO RINGS.

    Now I know accessories are not HUGE, but they do give stats and some extra oomph. I hate to be one of those guys who examines everyone then leaves, but in that case I had to, no way we would beat the dungeon the way we were progressing, and believe me I tried with them. GOt up Demon wall but they kept wiping.
    Actually jewelry bonus IS huge. 8 strength on necklace is equal to 8 strength on chest piece.
    While weapon damage has the biggest boost when it comes to stats, primary stats aren't far off. If you compare a person with no rings at all with a person that has 2 rings that give 6 str/dex/int/mnd each, then that will be equal to two weapon damage. That's huge.
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  7. #37
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    Ezariel Bayne
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    Faerie
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    Miner Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuni View Post
    Actually jewelry bonus IS huge. 8 strength on necklace is equal to 8 strength on chest piece.
    While weapon damage has the biggest boost when it comes to stats, primary stats aren't far off. If you compare a person with no rings at all with a person that has 2 rings that give 6 str/dex/int/mnd each, then that will be equal to two weapon damage. That's huge.
    Not to mention also that the level 49 gear for the whm above for example, also adds 38 spell speed (level 30 jewelry for comparison, has none at all) which means they will be able to put out more heals of greater potency over the course of the fight than the level 30 geared whm. Same for tanks with parry, melee with crit. And as you said, 15 of a base stat is nothing to be laughed at in this game. If they go the extra step and get a few items from WP or AK as well the difference is huge.
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  8. #38
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Eventually this will be fixed when ilvl restrictions come in 2.1. But there really is no excuse to be wearing 45 and below gear to a hard mode fight. There is no good argument for not properly equipping yourself with basic gear that would be suitable for the fight. Level 49 accessories are cheap cost maybe 1-2k.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    that +3 on 5 pieces is +15, which is more noticeable than people seem to think. I'm not saying perfect gear, but it definitely does a lot more than credit is given.
    and i'm not saying accessories do not matter, but when people are getting bashed for having a single bracelet/ring/whatever not "up to the level" — it is getting rather retarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipsed View Post
    Not to mention also that the level 49 gear for the whm above for example, also adds 38 spell speed (level 30 jewelry for comparison, has none at all) which means they will be able to put out more heals of greater potency over
    the course of the fight than the level 30 geared whm.
    yes, with extra 38 spell speed you can do stuff ~0.03 seconds faster.
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    Ronberku Vantarius
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    Balmung
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    FFXIV:ARR is a game where small numbers matter at end-game.

    I had a blm that joined through duty finder wearing BLM AF (perfectly acceptable), but EVERYTHING else was level 22-32. And I mean main weapon, waist, earrings and accesories.

    Our party quickly pointed that out to him. Most of them were a bit too rude doing so... But I calmly explained to him why this wouldn't work.

    On that matter.
    - Was it still possible to win? Yes, considering most of the other had very good gear to probably somewhat compensate for it.
    - Does anyone want to go through with it? No, because it feels insulting to the rest of the party. Who put time and effort to prepare for Garuda(HM). And nobody was prepared to carry that one lazy player through garuda(HM).
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