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  1. #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    I dont see how a mass ban would create a "fear" as, if I was to bot, and didnt get banned on a mass ban, then I'm obviously good enough not to get detected and would continue botting as my ego would be hitting the roof. It would make it worse, if they were banning left-right center as a person is detected, I'd be continuely thinking "my turn is any time now". And it'd be worse as I'd become more careless and do even more botting! such as 2accounts or something haha.

    But in traditional sense what I saw on XI was a lot of people would do some hack to test/try it out then go back to legit in gear, then 8 months later get a ban haha. SE is consistent!

    I've not bothered following this thread. Just ended up like the other 30 threads on this topic.
    mass ban would make people think "i could be next so i better stop botting"
    and stop future botters from taking the risk of downloading a bot.
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  2. #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    mass ban would make people think "i could be next so i better stop botting"
    and stop future botters from taking the risk of downloading a bot.
    if i was botting and avoided a mass ban, i would not think that. They did mass bans in XI and what did it achive? Nothing. It was either "get claim bot or gtfo our alliance". And sadly due to that and me not wanting to cheat, I was unable to do HNM's for a while until enough of my friends were confident to do it as a small group and just hope we out claim. More and more people got hacks and bots for XI, the mass banning did nothing.
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinigami View Post
    guess my proposition wasnt that good uh well i tried . I wonder tho, is it possible for a botters to do botany and mining?
    Unfortunately, Shinigami, your method would cause crafting to become even more tedious with random screens popping up like that. And eventually, botters will be able to get around it. Your idea may work initially, but then, people will complain of its futility, and in the long run, will not be able to halt botters. D:

    As for botany and mining....well, I can't say about mining, but in botany, EVERYONE bots. Otherwise, how will we get our lumber and logs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Once the game is in a good shape and we get over 1 mil or 2 population going on then i'm sure SE will bring down the ban hammer.
    I laughed when I saw the bolded bit.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 05-11-2011 at 10:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I laughed when I saw the bolded bit.
    Maybe the new battle system will be really amazing though.

    You never know. People go cazy for some good old fashioned auto-attack.

    But then again, auto-attack just makes botting even easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Proof? And STF is down. But i'm on every day and never see the same ppl crafting in the same places. Also what are they Flooding the market with? i barly can get armor in this game.
    Logic tells that people usually do not try getting rich by selling R10 gear.

    You are on everyday, mind i ask what you are actually doing? Getting to your rank (all of your ranks) would only take a couple hours all together.
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    Last edited by Randis; 05-11-2011 at 11:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    The funny part is if you got rid of bots you'd be paying about 2k gil for a wind shard. Well I wouldn't, I still make my own despite having tonnes of useless gil.

    The bad part is all these botters will get away with it, because as soon as the STF get off their lazy arses and do something about it they'll stop botting. By then they'll have nearly all classes at 50 and it won't matter.
    Exactly. It's now a part of their business strategy, which is why SE should not wait. The harm's already being done. You'll actually do more harm to wait. As mentioned, when botters are banned shard prices will go up. The botters will have cheated their way to cheaper advancement. Same way the earliest goldsmiths levelled GS for basically free until the silver needle nerf made it painful.

    These people make a living and a name off exhausting illegitimate imbalance, in hopes of finishing before it's caught. And SE lets them.

    Silver needles were legal and it's still not right that the first R50 GS'ers basically got free rides and free millions at the same time while everyone behind them got a painful grind for **** profit. But that's just the breaks. This isn't even legal.

    When they raise the level cap, these people will bot to try to ride that bubble. If they are not stung in an epic holocaust and sent straight to ban, to not pass suspension...then SE will have failed their jobs and the game is essentially worse than Detroit: Zero reason to stay. Every reason to leave.

    This game is making a name for itself as a nest and haven of cheaters. The only reason it's not known for its infestation of RMT is because they have better games to profit from. Unfortunately RMT are smarter than playing cheaters. They follow the fame and fortune. We have so many cheaters on this server who are just waiting for that game to turn the corner so they can be kings of the hill. They're too stupid to move on, and unlike RMT figure someone, somewhere, is impressed by their achievements or eventually will be.

    Ironically our biggest botters on the server are the server's biggest jokes already and have no hope of earning any respect for what they've gained. Even if they aren't banned, they're essentially finished.
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  8. #298
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    Recently found someone using a fish bot at the ferry docks in Ul'dah - no bait, yet they continued to jig in the same pattern (middle, left, right) and did not respond to any tells for approx. five minutes.

    It was only after I messaged another of their linkshell members that they finally disconnected and reconnected with a poorly constructed story as to why they didn't reply.

    As I've come to learn, this same person is also accusing another of the same offense; talk about pot calling the kettle black!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    Unfortunately, Shinigami, your method would cause crafting to become even more tedious with random screens popping up like that. And eventually, botters will be able to get around it. Your idea may work initially, but then, people will complain of its futility, and in the long run, will not be able to halt botters. D:

    As for botany and mining....well, I can't say about mining, but in botany, EVERYONE bots. Otherwise, how will we get our lumber and logs?
    Call me crazy if you want but im a botanist lvl 40 and im no botter. As for the solution i got that already as explained in the post, but they could make that "security" likea bonus so instead of being a downer it would be someting good. like everytime that "security" would appear (once every 4-5 craft), it would give an instant 20% progress with lots of quality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinigami View Post
    Call me crazy if you want but im a botanist lvl 40 and im no botter. As for the solution i got that already as explained in the post, but they could make that "security" likea bonus so instead of being a downer it would be someting good. like everytime that "security" would appear (once every 4-5 craft), it would give an instant 20% progress with lots of quality
    its a joke lol

    BOTony.....

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