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    gigi_frana's Avatar
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    So many forget about +30% skill / cast speed. Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigi_frana View Post
    So many forget about +30% skill / cast speed. Oh well.
    0.1 second gcd reduction on a 50% uptime. Have to use selene as well. So second healer will have to compensate even more for poor healing potency.

    Speed speed has dimishing returns too.
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    Therielis Darkwish
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    0.1 second gcd reduction on a 50% uptime. Have to use selene as well. So second healer will have to compensate even more for poor healing potency.

    Speed speed has dimishing returns too.
    aside from the fact that I have yet to find any theroycrafter listing a diminishing return value for spell spped (all table I found doesn't report such value and list the SS retunr as linear...) with a value over 1000 of SS (achived thx to WHM 100% increase spell speed ability) there is no sign of such diminishing return... so if u have seen such diminishing in effect or have red about it somewhere it will be really interesting to see/hear about it since (at least for me) it would be first... (also note that at the moment no cap nor diminishing return has been found for basic stat as well...)

    last... the 30% increase spell speed effect is based on the spell speed u accumulate... if u'r targeting that stat as a secondary and spending some materia/chosing equip in order to increase it the return from the 30% increase will be higher... but that aside... a 0,1 gcd reduction is traslated in 4% increased healing/dmg output... just the same effect of a 8% increased critical chance... nothing that sould really be overlooked...

    PS: spell speed increase increase your value of spell speed that is generated by your base spell speed (around 400 at lvl 50 that generate the 2,5 natural gcd) + all the spell speed acquired trough equip... so if u have equip for 100 SS it will be a total of 500 SS... multiply that for 30% and u will have a new total SS of 650... since every 10,5 point of SS above the base lvl (the around 400 that I mentioned early) reduce the GCD by 0,01 the actual added 250 SS (650 - 400 basic SS) will generate a total GCD reduction of 2,3 ...


    it's all about how much u invest on the stat... if u have invested near to nothing u will only get the increase of the base value... if u start stacking up SS than the return will increase

    it's all about choice... more crit rate for increased proc of adloquim shield or more SS for increased return of SS increase? that could be traslated in burst healing (burst shilding should be the more apropriate here...) against continual healing efficency... also the effect of the increase SS is also based on your party setup... if u get other player that have invested on SS they willalso get a good return... if they also went for crit or determination the effect will be poor on them too...
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    Last edited by Comalol; 09-18-2013 at 10:08 PM.

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    Adellyna Adel
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigi_frana View Post
    So many forget about +30% skill / cast speed. Oh well.
    its not much, looks promising on tooltip but turned out horrible lol. I suspect its only speeds up speed bonus from your stats/gear, not base 2.5s cast time/GCD >.>

    I bet many instantly think of WOW's bloodlust/heroism. I can tell you its not the case
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    Valiant Lightsworn
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by gigi_frana View Post
    So many forget about +30% skill / cast speed. Oh well.
    its not as strong as labeled... trust me... and it lasts only 30 sec with a 1 min cd... not really worth it.. SE needs to fix the % written or make the actual increas what is labeled because 1.97 sec cast time to a drop of 1.88 is NOT a 30% spell speed increase... its 30% from the spell speed you HAVE.. and in that makes a huge difference. if the caster doesn't stack speed that spell is useless
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    Fotix Topitopi
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    Archer Lv 30
    Well, as much work as I'm putting towards prepping for Scholar (THM to 26, ACN to 30, CONJ to 15, etc.) I hope we are "used." I really, really hope I'm valued as a Scholar!!
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