SCH... are we used?

[Arcana]

Question for lvl 50 SCH:
Are you using the Steady command usually? If i use the steady command and then i use manuallly Embrace, will the pet automatically turn to guard or will stay in steady mode?
Because obey on EOS sucks or its bugged... I like the AI when she uses Embrace but the AoE Regen is wasted.

[Acharial]

The only real problem with scholar is Titan HM. Two white mages can heal up the massive AoE where a scholar really slows down the AoE healing there. I can't speak for coil but for the rest of the content I prefer having a scholar alongside when I'm White Mage. Also right now stacking 2 regens and 2 medica II is slightly better than anything a scholar can come with. This is mostly from a min/max PoV. Apart from that I wouldn't really consider Scholar as being inferior to a White Mage. More like White Mage is inferior to a Scholar because the only thing we have is really the burst healing apart from that the scholar does it better.

[Kaizersan]

The only real problem with scholar is Titan HM. Two white mages can heal up the massive AoE where a scholar really slows down the AoE healing there. I can't speak for coil but for the rest of the content I prefer having a scholar alongside when I'm White Mage. Also right now stacking 2 regens and 2 medica II is slightly better than anything a scholar can come with. This is mostly from a min/max PoV. Apart from that I wouldn't really consider Scholar as being inferior to a White Mage. More like White Mage is inferior to a Scholar because the only thing we have is really the burst healing apart from that the scholar does it better.

Actually on Titan as a Sch I tend to do better healing wise then 2 Whm because I can pre Succor between jumps and stomps and Eos has no mp so she is helping the Whm and me save mp.

[Comalol]

pls don't wasting your time on stoneskin... the only use for it as SCH is to precast it before fight and only if u'r running a 4 man or a 8 man without a whm... also paladin can do the same as u since they also have access to that skill (true to be told not many pala feel like lvling a conj that hig... and I can't biase them on that...)

as a WHM myself I find it only usefull when i need to give a specific member of the party an hp boost before a specific phase (and that only if I feel that he have too few max hp due to death debuff or feel like I will not have time to top him off right after the phase...)... but with the same mana and less time a sch can do the same (or better if he crit) or with double mana and almost same time (with spell speed buff from faire) on 2 target or one target + lesser aoe shield on the rest...

SS is really a poor skill for non WHM... and still situational for WHM (situational as for uses out of preshielding before fight begin that is a must have for our treat generation)

on the other side... 26 lvl as THM are really a must have... thee are so much uses for that insta cast that I discover a new one every day... and the 60 sec CD is really short... well if it was shorter it will be even better... but it is already an OP skill as it is ^^'


PS: for those that prefer 2 WHM to WHM+SCH ... they didn't have the chance to test what those 2 healer combined can do or had a really bad SCH (but really really bad...) with them once and jumped the gun deciding that all SCH are the same... or else are reaaaaally poor player that can't avoid a single avoidable aoe and need a constant double med II on them... that refull them faster than med II + aoe heal+ shield... but put much more stress on the healers... and for those that think that double regen on the tank is OP... they haven't seen what a regen + critted shield can do... With the SCH i usally run around when she crit we can both swich off from tank healing and take our time toppin off the group or simply reccing mana or even trowing out some dps...

[Shyluv]

50 WHM and only 31 SCH. Honestly, it seems like it takes more skill for a WHM to manage their enmity but still keep everyone alive at the same time. I realize my SCH is very low leveled. But I find it incredibly boring. Fairy does most of the healing, and so far her AI doesn't seem as bad to me as some people claim.

But that is just for me. In 8 man, I definitely like having a SCH over another WHM.

[Birdeh]

As a lvl 50 SCH (and lvl 34 WHM), I've been running nearly all the lvl 50 instances and its going fine.

SCH advantages:
1. Has shields
2. Doesn't going oom (easy)
3. Cool pet buff (spell/skill haste, healing potency/resistance/aoe buff stuff)
4. Instant 20% healing spell, which you can spam at most 3x per minute (takes practice, but saved many asses).

However what I regret not having from WHM stufff are:
1. Aoe medica heals for pure heals.
2. Not having a cure 2, which is more powerful (but less mana efficient).
3. Somehow WHMs can resurrect people with no death penalty.
4. The panic 100% heal thingy (Instead the SCH 20% heal spam thing compensates though in a way, cuz u can u use it more often).

I would still prefer playing a SCH anytime, since ur kind of an underdog. And you have a higher chance of getting another WHM to combine the strengths of both healer types.

[Comalol]

3. Somehow WHMs can resurrect people with no death penalty.

sch can do that as well... but it is on the limit of bug using (for both WHM and SCH)... the trick is simply to cast an aoe heal that tick during the rise animation for whm the timing is to start casting medica I as soon as the target pop under your position... don't remeber the cast time of sch aoe heal but if it's the same that will do the trick for u too... if it has different cast time u only need to get the timing right...

PS: about what u said on mana efficency.. it is true until whm start getting good lvl 50 equip... once the get a good amount of piety from that (all my point went to mind so all my piety is from gear...) your natural regen + shroud will be enough to let u linger around 75% mana in most fight and drop to 50% only in the most aoe intensive... anyway this doesn't make SCH subpar to whm... all other aspect hold true + sch can use their shield (both single and aoe) to mitigate unavoidable aoe dmg before they happen and so not incurring in the risk of tank getting hit really hard while they are healing the party... there where many situation where healing as a dowble WHM i found my self forced to use benediction (off gcd insta refull on 5 min cd) on the tank because he was getting bashed while we both healer were restoring the party health after an aoe transition... same fight when paired with a SCH went much more easy and I was the only one healing a less dmged party while he was healing and shielding the tank in the mean time...

[Rainsford]

2. Not having a cure 2, which is more powerful (but less mana efficient).
3. Somehow WHMs can resurrect people with no death penalty.

For 3, the trick is to start casting Succor as soon as their body disappears to be rezed. What's happening is that you can't single-target someone while they are in the Raise animation (you'll end up casting on yourself if they are targetted), but you CAN hit them with AOEs while they are in the animation. As they don't get the "debuff" until the animation has finished, all you need to do is hit them with an AOE heal before the Raise animation finishes to cancel them from getting the debuff.

For 2, remember that Aldo, while it lists as a 300 potency heal, is actually a 600 potency heal thanks to the shield compared to WHM's 650 potency Cure II. Considering you get free 300 potency heals from your Faerie, I'd say an Aldo + a faerie heal is significantly more valuable than a Cure II!

[Valiant]

50 WHM and only 31 SCH. Honestly, it seems like it takes more skill for a WHM to manage their enmity but still keep everyone alive at the same time. I realize my SCH is very low leveled. But I find it incredibly boring. Fairy does most of the healing, and so far her AI doesn't seem as bad to me as some people claim.

But that is just for me. In 8 man, I definitely like having a SCH over another WHM.

wait til 50... when she decideds she wont heal til 70%or less health and you have to manually use embrace

[mxzrk]

For the Scholars who are having issues with the fairies I don't really get it. I have never micro-managed Eos, nor would I ever. The Scholars who are having problems healing either just can't grasp it or the tank is standing in to much stuff. I hear people talking a lot about Brayflox's Landing..if the tank stays out of things, it's simple. One run through there the tank died really quickly because he REFUSED to move, literally said he was not going to move, so I let him die. The monk took over and tanked and I healed him through the whole fight with a black mage. So for the ones having problems with mana management, I NEVER run out of mana. It would have to be a fight so long, with everyone getting hit with stuff because they are not moving for me to run out of mana. Hit your Aetherflow, that restores mana. Tab over to the mob your tank is hitting and hit energy drain, it works wonders. I never let my mana drop below 75%, and I never have an issue.