Make quests repeatable.

[Iskander]

After we do the quests, they are gone forever leaving us with just fate grinding or duty grinding to level up. I suggest SE have all the quests repeatable, once per class. You can take out the item rewards after the first go through, leaving us with some gil and xp rewards. This will free up duty finder space and possibly make fates manageable.

It's not going to happen. Why? Because did not listen to SE and blew through the limited quests THEY TOLD EVERYONE WOULD BE LIMITED IN NUMBER!

It was made known to the public that Yoshi did not want everyone blowing through their classes, and to help with that, he made sure that there were a limited amount of quests. The idea was that players would have to manage the number of quests if they wanted to have quests for each and every class. However, there are people like you that completely ignored this, blew all the quests on 1-2 roles, and are now stuck in shock that they ignored this fact and it now affects them. The only one to blame for you running out of quests is yourself. A level 50 BLM, 21 LNC, 15 PUG, 17 ARC, and 15 ACN and I maybe used 10 side quests from 1-20.

Next time, maybe you'll listen to SE when they say something. Continue playing with the results of your actions instead of begging SE to make it so you don't have to live with your mistake.

[Dorfentyme]

dialogue about Iskander not understanding the topic

If he didn't want people to blow through all the classes quickly, then FATE's wouldn't so fast to level us, would they?

No MMO should ever tell a player "ration your content or you'll run out of ways to level". It's a horrible design decision, and there is NO good argument for defending it.

Leveling alts from 1-30 isn't even difficult. At 30-50 it becomes a horrendous grind without quests(no, leves are terrible, guildhests are as well, hunting log post 30 is terrible as well). And there are NO quests to ration from 40-50(where the grind is the longest. So what's left? FATE grind. Sounds like a blast, doesn't it.

Face it, your argument is terribly flawed. Stop apologizing for Square. Goodness white knights will be the death of this game if Square listens to them. "There's not a single flaw with your game Square, don't change ANYTHING! its perfect!" Yeah, that'll keep the subs rolling in.

[Iskander]

Horrible bashing to defend that he also ignored Yoshi-P's beta announcements.

Leveling alts from 1-30 isn't even difficult. At 30-50 it becomes a horrendous grind without quests(no, leves are terrible, guildhests are as well, hunting log post 30 is terrible as well). And there are NO quests to ration from 40-50(where the grind is the longest. So what's left? FATE grind. Sounds like a blast, doesn't it.

More mindless bashing.

At level 30, There is the lower half of south shroud (there are quests), Eastern La Noscea (there are quests), Forgotten Springs ( There are quests). On top of the hunting log for 30-40. There are 8 battle classes (gld, lnc, cnj, arc, acn, mrd, thm, pug). Your first class you shouldn't even need these side quests or if you do, you should be using very few. There are the main quests, your hunting log, the one-off bonuses from hests. The hunting log could get you to lvl 32-33 (I had a FC help me with 35+ hunts)At this level, you get a dungeon (if you're smart and unlock it). More help with leveling. There is no reason that in 3 areas, you should be wasting the side quests on 1 class. At 35, You have Upper La Noscea quests And Coerthas Highlands. There's 2 towns in Coerthas, each with quests. There are the 35 hests. Brayflox dungeon. I don't know about the camp overlook quest levels since I never touched there, but some of the monsters are around lv 35 so maybe they can count too.

Most of the side quests I mentioned should be dipped into for second classes and beyond. If you're blowing through them on your first when you also have main quests, that's your fault, not SE's.

I believe at 29, you start unlocking dungeons at every 3 levels. They help with exp. For second classes, side quests in one area could make up for the main xp you no longer have.

I understand the topic plenty fine. The OP wants the quests to be reflagged because he's out of them. The reason I argue is because it was noted way before launch to discourage people from using them on 1-2 classes. There are plenty of leveling alternatives for classes that were disregarded because you wanted to blow through quests without thinking.

1-10 you shouldn't even be touching most if any of these. Your hunting log 1-10 will get you to 10 or close to it. I think I did a total of 5 fates each for my secondary classes, which is not bad in starting zones. They are not littered with players. If you complain about having to do a couple of fates in starting zones, the issue isn't quests, but you.

10-15. Hunting log can get you here. If need be, call a friend in to help with the last hunt or 2. The hunting log can get you to 15, in which the dungeons unlock again. Look, another way to get xp and quests haven't even been touched yet. The 3 starting dungeons during the 5 levels get you to 20 in no time, which very few runs. At 20, Another hunting log, and a new dungeon. At level 23, another dungeon. During the 6 levels in between, using some of the quests in one of the 20 areas (South Shroud buscaroon town, Camp Drybone,) might actually happen, but not blowing through all of them on one class. At 29, there's a dungeon. At 30, whole new areas to explore and a new hunting log. The fact that there are other ways of getting xp without FATEing your way through 50 levels shows that SE had considered this. If a player manages there quests accordingly, they won't have this problem. If you decided to blow through all your quests, well then you chose to be left with dungeons, leves, hests, and FATEs. That was not SE's choosing, that was yours.

As for being a white knight, I am not one because I have plenty of complaints about the game. The loading prioritization in FATEs is god awful. South Shroud and Coerthas being the worst (+Odin since he pops up in all black shroud). The fact that HUD elements keep moving across the screen and keep needing to be moved back. The damn walls of text every time I enter a city. The fact that the music will randomly just die and the game has to be restarted to fix it. Some issues with endgame progression.

[Ehllfhire]

Insane trolling

So because SE made enough quests for one class, its our fault we didnt split it among 17 classe? Sound logic. Try adding something worthwhile to the converation.

[Iskander]

Childish troll

Because SE put in multiple ways of getting xp so people didn't rely solely on the limited amount of quests for leveling, logic says that you should not focus on just quests to level up like you do in WoW. In WoW, there seems to be no end to the quests because there is just that many. This isn't WoW. This is a game where everything you do is to be thought out. Just because you didn't think before gorging on quests doesn't mean SE is going to let you do it again.

Without quests there are:
FATEs
Guildhests
Guildleves
hunting log
dungeons.


If you can't deal with the fact that you used up your quests and now have to look at the other leveling options, maybe this game is not your cup of tea.

[Dorfentyme]

Because SE put in multiple ways of getting xp so people didn't rely solely on the limited amount of quests for leveling, logic says that you should not focus on just quests to level up like you do in WoW. In WoW, there seems to be no end to the quests because there is just that many. This isn't WoW. This is a game where everything you do is to be thought out. Just because you didn't think before gorging on quests doesn't mean SE is going to let you do it again.

Without quests there are:
FATEs
Guildhests
Guildleves
hunting log
dungeons.


If you can't deal with the fact that you used up your quests and now have to look at the other leveling options, maybe this game is not your cup of tea.

You obviously haven't read any of the information I posted and therefore don't understand the topic.

See: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...o-be-addressed
and
See: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...09#post1269709

You have been provided all the information necessary to understand why the games leveling is completely flawed and monotonous.

If everything in this game was to be thought out, you wouldn't be able to grind FATEs for massive experience. Terrible logic. Stop pretending this game is so difficult.

A boring, monotonous grind does not = difficulty. It's actually the exact opposite of difficulty. Nice try, troll.

The white knights will be the death of this community.

[Ehllfhire]

Without quests there are:
FATEs
Guildhests
Guildleves
hunting log
dungeons.


If you can't deal with the fact that you used up your quests and now have to look at the other leveling options, maybe this game is not your cup of tea.

Fates: If you dont have an aoe you wont get credit, and very boring faceroll
Guildhests: Absolutely worthless for xp after the first time through, worthless for gil
Guildleves: Cooldown based quests that give 1/3rd the xp and gil, worthless to level on unless crafting.
Hunting Log: Seriously? enough xp for 2 levels if you do all 50.
Dungeons: 1-2 hour wait for good xp but no gil and often no reward, you cant do in combo with fate parties, basically you have to solo if you queue

Clearly you are white knight trolling

[Mishakai]

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So far I've skipped all but main story and class/job quests.

I constantly get gold medals for FATES w/o AOE, and w/o a group, not sure what you're doing wrong.
Guildhests, haven't done any, too busy getting xp through other avenues.
Leves might not bring in ZOMG experience, but you get a daily allowance. They aren't worthless unless you craft, they are just more worthwile for crafting classes.
I've gotten more than 2 levels from hunting logs. Heck, the last two mobs in my acn rank 3 netted me 1/2 a level.
Dungeons, the wait will go down as they continue to improve infrastructure.

Clearly you are doing it wrong, or are simply too impatient.

[Ehllfhire]

Elitism being spewed

I cant get a hit on any mob in a fate before its dead w/o aoe, I dont know what dead server or non peak hours you play on. Seriously its clear all you do is fate grind and because Im not into boring ass fate grinding and want a legitimate way to level Im doing it wrong. Seriously dude how big of a douche are you to think that way?

[Dorfentyme]

So far I've skipped all but main story and class/job quests.

I constantly get gold medals for FATES w/o AOE, and w/o a group, not sure what you're doing wrong.
Guildhests, haven't done any, too busy getting xp through other avenues.
Leves might not bring in ZOMG experience, but you get a daily allowance. They aren't worthless unless you craft, they are just more worthwile for crafting classes.
I've gotten more than 2 levels from hunting logs. Heck, the last two mobs in my acn rank 3 netted me 1/2 a level.
Dungeons, the wait will go down as they continue to improve infrastructure.

Clearly you are doing it wrong, or are simply too impatient.

FATE contribution is so easy to get gold as a Gladiator. He's not doing it wrong, it's just stupidly easy for us. Hit flash twice and we have gold contribution. Yes, it really IS that easy. Don't deny it.