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  1. #21
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    xRitzx's Avatar
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    Ritz Blitz
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Bard was initially planned to be support but changed to DPS. That is why it is kind of awkward as DPS and has some support abilities, including it's limit break. If you don't like it, play a different class. I personally don't want to play bard as a DPS class right now because it has support abilities that would prevent me from focusing only on DPS if I were to be a team member and play correctly.

    Although some of you find bard's limit break useless, it's not. It's helpful for situations where the team is struggling. This explains it best:
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    I think the bard's LB is perfectly spot on, keep in mind that if a party needs a healing limit it means that either the healers are dead or they are in deep shit and can't stop healing for a sec and the LB casting time is quite long, so having a support job doing it is the way to go. Honestly most of the time I've seen that LB it was done by a bard and I myself have saved a few pugs from a wipe with it.
    And don't forget that using a limit is optional, you can complete every fight without using any LB.
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  2. #22
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    Misaky Darkwalker
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    Archer Lv 50
    I agree as well, bards need a offensive LB!
    a AOE LB would make more sense, since bard is on top 3 of the aoe DDs, but even a single target LB would make more sense then this healing.

    While i was still a archer, i did manage to use the healing LB quite some times to save people, but now at high lvls is useless..
    a white mage or scholar can very easily use a shiftcast + aoe heal which heals everyone much better(and faster) then the healing LB.
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  3. #23
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    Memoe's Avatar
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    Rex Aetherpaw
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Bard doesn't need an offensive limit break. Bard LB is actually very well planned. Unlike Healers, Bard can roam the area very freely and dodge possible patterns that are able to kill casting Healers. So when Healers are dead, Bard has the only "OH SHIT" -ability to save the whole party from wiping - just because the class can move a lot better around than Healers.
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  4. #24
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    Misaky Darkwalker
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memoe View Post
    Bard doesn't need an offensive limit break. Bard LB is actually very well planned. Unlike Healers, Bard can roam the area very freely and dodge possible patterns that are able to kill casting Healers. So when Healers are dead, Bard has the only "OH SHIT" -ability to save the whole party from wiping - just because the class can move a lot better around than Healers.
    thats only possible with a 3 bars limit break, and what about when its a light party?
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  5. #25
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    Rex Aetherpaw
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misaky View Post
    thats only possible with a 3 bars limit break, and what about when its a light party?
    Then a Bard does not use his LB and leaves the job for someone that has a more suitable LB. Can't always have it all.
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  6. #26
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    Apathy Emerald
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Misaky View Post
    thats only possible with a 3 bars limit break, and what about when its a light party?
    You just let someone else do that, ffs there are 4 players in a light party and only one limit gauge, you don't have to always be the one using it. And as I stated before, the LB is absolutely optional, despite the common strategies used in pugs every content can be done without a limit. Demon Wall in AK can easilly be killed with 2 bards, Titan's heart can be killed with 4 dps without using any LB and i couldn't test it myself, but I'm pretty sure even Ifrit can be done without a limit, so I really don't get all the fuss here, besides the "meh I don't get to use the fleshy epeen move" complain.
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  7. #27
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Eagle eye shot D:
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  8. #28
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    Keedah Kendahl
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 36
    Bards are arguably the highest single target dps in the game.
    Bards have extremely high burst (probably the highest, but BLMs are pretty close?)
    Bards are the most mobile dps class in the game.
    Bards have the best utility in the game (songs, silence, root, slow)

    Give us a stun and a dps limit break and we won't need to bring any other classes to anything. Maybe a BLM for AoE once in awhile..
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  9. #29
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    Adrianna Bellini
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Since Bard is kinda supporty, I always thought it'd be neat if their LB gave a party-wide Brave or Faith or Haste or something along those lines. Healing LB on a support role makes some sense, but it's so rarely called for from a Bard that by-and-large it just feels useless.

    I've only ever seen maybe 2 situations where the Bard could have saved a wipe with an LB3. However, in both cases the Bard didn't use it because they weren't used to LBing and either a: assumed someone else had already used it (i.e. they paid no attention to the LB gauge because of how infrequently Bards actually need to LB) or b: they didn't have LB on their hotkeys (again, because of how infrequently Bards actually need to LB).
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  10. #30
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    Dragon Meat
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    Chocobo
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    Arcanist Lv 45
    even i tink its stupid to have Healing /revive LB on a support class(or whatever you call it).
    its more fitt to have some short of buff type LB.
    like spell/skill speed buff and/or more damage output.
    dont see the point in the same LB as a Healer class on a support/DPS class.

    almost the same as giving a DRG the healer LB. only thing diffrent is DRG is melee(DPS) and Bard is range (DPS or Support) depends who is reading here.
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