BRDs need an AoE LB!

[ZyloWolfBane]

Seriously, if the DF want's to keep sticking 2-4 BRDs in the same HM Ifrit/Garuda group at least give us a LB that can actually help our team.

I mean yes there's ways to win without it, I've done it, if people are willing to listen and are geared enough to permit said strategies.

But it's REALLY irritating to constantly wait 20 mins to an hour for a group only to have everyone bail the instant you get in cause there's no BLM or SMN, why in the hell do we have a healer LB!?

Last time I checked we're support but we don't heal!

P.S Yes, I'm whining...don't care, even if I leveled both tank classes I'd still have this problem even if my queues are shorter, I'm not talking about the occasional group that has this happen, I'm talking 4-6 straight HOURS of this happening.

And as far as FC goes everyone is more interested in bashing their heads against a wall with HM Titan and coil, but I know I need gear first, DF is the only option.

[Chocob0charmer]

No one doesn't think BRD should have a different LB. Gonna change eventually whether its tomorrow, next week, or when they release a gun class that's pure dd.

[EmeraldSerenade]

I agree that bards should be given an AOE LB, but until then, they should update Dungeon Finder for Primals to look for at least one SMN/BLM. This goes for both Ifrit and Garuda. For Titan, they need to remove one tank slot and allow either 3 healers or 5 DPS. I haven't really had this issue with normal dungeons though. 2 bards usually do fine.

[Psykloned]

You do realize if us BRDs were given a DPS LB, that there would be literally no point in bringing MNK or DRG? We have the easiest positioning/movement mechanics during dungeons/HM encounters and our support mechanics are always good especially with a fellow WHM. Thus, we don't really need heals (assuming that BRD is a decent player), and can pull out great burst and letting our heals literally only heal the tank(s).

What SE really needs to do, is integrate a way to prevent more than 2 of the of the same job entering 8 man DF's. Saying BRDs should just get a DPS LB doesn't really solve the problem, in fact it creates more.

[Reika]

You do realize if us BRDs were given a DPS LB, that there would be literally no point in bringing MNK or DRG? We have the easiest positioning/movement mechanics during dungeons/HM encounters and our support mechanics are always good especially with a fellow WHM. Thus, we don't really need heals (assuming that BRD is a decent player), and can pull out great burst and letting our heals literally only heal the tank(s).

What SE really needs to do, is integrate a way to prevent more than 2 of the of the same job entering 8 man DF's. Saying BRDs should just get a DPS LB doesn't really solve the problem, in fact it creates more.

SMN and BLM get DPS limit breaks too, AOE, so there must currently be no reason to bring MNK or DRG according to you.

True that they cant leave BRD with healer LB's, because when they do add msk or any other ranged dps class that isn't a finger wiggler, it will be awkward and stupid for them to have healing LB's. Ranger especially better have a sweet LB like Ultimate Arrow Shock Wave or something, not a Revive.

[Tupsi]

SMN and BLM get DPS limit breaks too, AOE, so there must currently be no reason to bring MNK or DRG according to you.

BLM and SMN aren't support, BRD is a support class, Archer flows into Bard because that's how it is in many western MMOs and a few Korean MMOs - They have a support limit break even if they're DPS.

Wouldn't be a problem if they stuck with the XI style Bard in the way it was an obvious support role so there would be no confusion or "demands" to change it's support nature in any way.

Ranger especially better have a sweet LB like Ultimate Arrow Shock Wave or something, not a Revive.

They'll have Braver, Blade dance and Final Heaven like every other DPS

[Reika]

BLM and SMN aren't support, BRD is a support class, Archer flows into Bard because that's how it is in many western MMOs and a few Korean MMOs - They have a support limit break even if they're DPS.

Wouldn't be a problem if they stuck with the XI style Bard in the way it was an obvious support role so there would be no confusion or "demands" to change it's support nature in any way.



They'll have Braver, Blade dance and Final Heaven like every other DPS

There is no such thing as support classes/jobs in ARR. BRD is DPS, and just so happens to queue in duty finder as such.

[SteelyHermit]

Bards DO have an aoe lb.

[Destinova]

Brd limit break should be a support. That increases critical, makes skill and spell speed faster, and reduces skill cool down by 25, 50, 75 % based on how many bars you have.

[KV-1]

I don't mind the healing LB, but getting stuck with 2 Bards in a 4 man stinks. Also, sometimes people (DPS) forget/don't know how to LB and I get kinda of frustrated because I can't do it myself.