The current battle system mainly calculate everything from Your Rank vs Mob Rank

[Physic]

No lol. The reason different weapons do the same damage on NMs is because dLvl has capped how good you're allowed to be on said target. Fact.

Evidence: Gain one level. Keep the rest of your stats the same. You will see your cap go up, because your dlvl got better.

You're wrong. Your argument has been destroyed by facts about the game readily apparent.

dLvl dominates this game. Don't think so? You're simply wrong. It's not an opinion.

dlvl is a part of the equation, but it is not the only factor, or i would not see my dmg change attacking a mob 20 levels higher than me. If dlevel was the determining factor every mob that much higher would yeild the same results.

another test+
pug 42
vs level 70 gobbue
weathered hora 10-12 heavy strike
boarskin cesti 20-25

that essentially shows my weapon being twice as effective, this means if we were all fighting something 28 levels higher than us, my weapon is making me twice as effective at dps.
Im not questioning that dlevel matters, im saying gear still matters, if you have a situation where it doesnt, it has nothing to do with dlevel.

edit so in response to what peregrine is saying, basically since everyone has the same gear, and capped stats, only your level matters, but you are all the same level so nothing matters. doesnt sound like a problem with gear/stats, the probelm is you all have the same gear and stats.

exactly what does the dlevel have to be for me to see no difference and do you really think that the NMs are that level.

[Peregrine]

dlvl is a part of the equation, but it is not the only factor, or i would not see my dmg change attacking a mob 20 levels higher than me. If dlevel was the determining factor every mob that much higher would yeild the same results.

another test+
pug 42
vs level 70 gobbue
weathered hora 10-12 heavy strike
boarskin cesti 20-25

that essentially shows my weapon being twice as effective, this means if we were all fighting something 28 levels higher than us, my weapon is making me twice as effective at dps.
Im not questioning that dlevel matters, im saying gear still matters, if you have a situation where it doesnt, it has nothing to do with dlevel.

edit so in response to what peregrine is saying, basically since everyone has the same gear, and capped stats, only your level matters, but you are all the same level so nothing matters. doesnt sound like a problem with gear/stats, the probelm is you all have the same gear and stats.

I dunno how gimp you want to be, but a jade crook+3 with 120 int and pie is not the same gear and stats as a jade crook and 80 int and pie.

What you just said is that 85 attack increases your damage by 10 points. Wow lol...in ffxi it took about 16 attack to do that.

Thanks for proving my point. Even if you ARE mining for fish and being completely stupid about your setup, it just doesnt' matter that much.

Lol you gain 85 attack points and your damage goes up by 10. If you didn't test a lame straw man setup, you'd see that anything over 80 attack is pretty much "good enough." If you gained a level, your damage would probably go up by 15.

You basically just argued that if you're an idiot, something other than level actually makes a difference.
So....what about all the people who aren't idiots? What about real players?

Oh. That's right. Level's pretty much the only difference no matter what they equip. We all know that.

[Physic]

I dunno how gimp you want to be, but a jade crook+3 with 120 int and pie is not the same gear and stats as a jade crook and 80 int and pie.

What you just said is that 85 attack increases your damage by 10 points. Wow lol...in ffxi it took about 16 attack to do that.

Thanks for proving my point. Even if you ARE mining for fish and being completely stupid about your setup, it just doesnt' matter that much.

Lol you gain 85 attack points and your damage goes up by 10. If you didn't test a lame straw man setup, you'd see that anything over 80 attack is pretty much "good enough." If you gained a level, your damage would probably go up by 15.

incorrect in ffxi how much attack effected your damage had a lot to do with the mob at hand, and if you were at the extremes you saw much less results, ie
attacking a low level rabit, attack had no real value
attacking some super high level defense mob you needed a lot of attack before you started to see a difference. at level 75 with food, 1 boost was like 40 attack for me, and i can guarantee you it did very little in terms of upping my dmg versus tiamat or even demon NMs in xarcabard

and yeah doing twice your damage is never wack. if everyone is weak because of dlevel, doing gimp dmg, and i double my gimp dmg, i double my effectiveness gimp, or not gimp.
also when testing versus a mob around my level i also saw a huge jump in damage, from 50 to 100 per swing. this implies its not simply +10 its more like im getting a % better.
this means that yeah that level may get me 15 more damage, but 7 of that 15 is coming from my gear.

what does this mean? it means dlevel is lowering your effectiveness, but your gear still makes you noticeably more effective.
when your gear doesnt make you noticeably more effective, its probably a special trait or ability of the monster.

for example the monsters defense is too low, so my attack is irrelevant, or it is too high, so my attack is just a drop in the bucket.
to illustrate
if they were using a simple subtraction system

1000 defense -85 attack 915 defense left over. i barely dented it
1000 defense 5 attack 995 defense left over i still barely dented it

really low defense
5 defense 85 attack, i totally overcame his defense allowing for my maximum damage
5 defense 5 attack i totally overcame his defense allowing for my maximum damage.

now look at a skill which ignores defense.
wow i get full damage no matter wait i own NMS! wait sounds exactly like spirits within and bio. the skills that ignore defense win because they ignore defense. even when the dlevel is not an issue. even if they remove dlevel this will continue to be the case, even when you are level 65 the thaum will still own your damage with a skill that ignores defense on any high defense mob, even if your 10 levels higher than you were

the fact is the NM you are fighting is a special case, he has special stats which your stats arent effecting, blame the NM designer, the NM is cheesy bastard, dlevel may have its faults, but it doesnt explain this