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  1. #11
    Player
    Nihlo's Avatar
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    Seai Astoiven
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    Cerberus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    If you have a premate grp of like 6 guys (1tank,2heals, rest dds) you can also rush through praetorium. Much easier since you don't rely on the 2nd tank.
    All the bosses are pretty easy with some good dds and you can kill them with just 6 guys.
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  2. #12
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    Evilized's Avatar
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    Character
    Pretty Lights
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    They need to REALLY slow down praetorium and CM "speed runs." The jokers that spam for speed runs won't take anyone if their gear is below level 50 and that is unacceptable. How am I ever supposed to get these dungeons done if I can never get an invite due to these "elitists" that demand you have level 50 gear???

    The fact that there are parties running these dungeons over and over so quickly really ruins my immersion. I know it's the same for the majority of other players too.
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  3. #13
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    BrainWoodstock's Avatar
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    Vayne Florain
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilized View Post
    They need to REALLY slow down praetorium and CM "speed runs." The jokers that spam for speed runs won't take anyone if their gear is below level 50 and that is unacceptable. How am I ever supposed to get these dungeons done if I can never get an invite due to these "elitists" that demand you have level 50 gear???

    The fact that there are parties running these dungeons over and over so quickly really ruins my immersion. I know it's the same for the majority of other players
    too.
    Use Duty Finder, normally when i use it i get normal groups that dont speed run.
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  4. #14
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    FinagleABagel's Avatar
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    Semir No'haelis
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    To all of you who are complaining about "elitist scum" and speen runs, here's a tip. Don't expect to get in those parties. Do it like we did and find a group of new players and learn the content. Keep doing it until you have the gear to contribute to a faster run without being carried. Don't come here and complain about how people won't let you in their "elite" parties. To you speed runners, stop trying to PUG a speed run.

    Speed runs exist because it's a massive grind. Most of us don't like grinding. We want to knock the content out so we can pass the Titan HM gear check. Carrying some new player around is an unnecessary and unwanted burden.

    My group was able to clear AK in 36 minutes. That's faster than any CM run I've seen from a relative tome gain : time spent ratio. However, if you aren't getting instant queues with AK and you can get an instant queue with CM - then obviously that changes my answer. I prefer AK because you need those 300 ToMs each week.
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  5. #15
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    Evilized's Avatar
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    Pretty Lights
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    They need to slow down ak even more, remove philosophy stones from CM and praetorium and they need to cap philosophy stones to 400/week. The speed which people are progressing is WAY TOO FAST. the speed at which some people are clearing content is unhealthy and square really needs to limit these people's play time. Nobody should feel "left out" when playing a game with others, it's just unfair.
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  6. #16
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    Manila's Avatar
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    Character
    Manila Luzon
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Friends have been spam running praetorium with a full pre-made using 1 tank, 1 heal, 6 dps. Average run time is somewhere between 18-22m, even with my super crappy brd in there and hella slow loading between cutscenes. Its very efficient for philosophy tomes. For mythi think garuda and Titan are probably more efficient than AK since they can be done 6-8 times an hour, granted that's if you're not DF.
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    Last edited by Manila; 09-16-2013 at 10:54 PM.

  7. #17
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    DarthVader's Avatar
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    Character
    Darth Vader
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nowhere2Be View Post
    Sometimes I get groups that can clearly AK in 40-45 minutes but most of the players I get come in with lvl 44 GC weapons and trash takes a millenium to kill.
    Dude this is exactly my problem...
    I know they are just trying to get the drops to update their gear, but at the same time, some folks are just going for the TOMES and want speed run. I wonder if there is a way for Duty Finder to pair up first timers with themselves and experienced players with others
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  8. #18
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    Korbenik's Avatar
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    Korbenik Dracogenius
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilized View Post
    They need to slow down ak even more, remove philosophy stones from CM and praetorium and they need to cap philosophy stones to 400/week. The speed which people are progressing is WAY TOO FAST. the speed at which some people are clearing content is unhealthy and square really needs to limit these people's play time. Nobody should feel "left out" when playing a game with others, it's just unfair.
    You really sound like someone who is crying because you were picked last in gym class. The rate that other players are progressing are because of the time they are putting into the game. If you are not going to put that time into the game then don't complain because they have better gear. You just want things showed down because you don't want to put the time in as the other players That's what it comes down to.
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  9. #19
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    Evilized's Avatar
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    Pretty Lights
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Korbenik View Post
    You really sound like someone who is crying because you were picked last in gym class. The rate that other players are progressing are because of the time they are putting into the game. If you are not going to put that time into the game then don't complain because they have better gear. You just want things showed down because you don't want to put the time in as the other players That's what it comes down to.
    They just need to limit everyone's playtime to 2 hours or so per day and most of the problems with the game would disappear. They could just set it to disable all rewards after 2 hours of play time, so no drops, exp, gil or ability to craft. Get it together SE or this game will be f2p in the next couple months!
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  10. #20
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    Korbenik Dracogenius
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilized View Post
    They need to slow down ak even more, remove philosophy stones from CM and praetorium and they need to cap philosophy stones to 400/week. The speed which people are progressing is WAY TOO FAST. the speed at which some people are clearing content is unhealthy and square really needs to limit these people's play time. Nobody should feel "left out" when playing a game with others, it's just unfair.
    You really sound like someone who is crying because you were picked last in gym class. The rate that other players are progressing are because of the time they are putting into the game. If you are not going to put that time into the game then don't complain because they have better gear. You just want things showed down because you don't want to put the time in as the other players That's what it comes down to.
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