SCH... are we used?

[Draemos]

Yes two WHM is OP. Scholar is balanced until you reach Titan at which point you will only get a group if its a 3 healer group with 2 whm and 1 sch. Scholar needs a slight re work to balance it for the big high damage taken fights.

Titan is a heavy AoE healing fight and WHM are heavy AoE healers. Just because they are better utilized in that fight doesn't make SCH broken or in need of rework.

It's kinda like saying WHMs are broken at Demon Wall because SCHs are significantly better designed for that fight.

[sharazisspecial]

Titan is a heavy AoE healing fight and WHM are heavy AoE healers. Just because they are better utilized in that fight doesn't make SCH broken or in need of rework.

It's kinda like saying WHMs are broken at Demon Wall because SCHs are significantly better designed for that fight.

how? whm do just as well as sch well that fight perhaps even better . Sch is the one that lacks aoe healing and needs to spam the hell out of succor to make up for it.

[Draemos]

how? whm do just as well as sch well that fight perhaps even better . Sch is the one that lacks aoe healing and needs to spam the hell out of succor to make up for it.

What? You just have your tank hold the bees and you kill the wall. Very little AoE healing required, and you aren't nearly as likely to pull Bee threat as a Scholar. You can use the haste Fairy and do DPS for the first half of the fight because your fairy can heal the first two repels by herself. If you have good DPS you can even kill the wall before the bees spawn, it's trivial as a Scholar.

[Kaizersan]

how? whm do just as well as sch well that fight perhaps even better . Sch is the one that lacks aoe healing and needs to spam the hell out of succor to make up for it.

Sch is better for the demon wall simply for the fact that it has Dots I can hit all 3 each round with maybe needing to do one or 2 succors at the most only more then that if the dps fail to kill the bee's fast but I have been in a few teams that can down it before the bee's pop.

[reality_check]

Sch is better for the demon wall simply for the fact that it has Dots I can hit all 3 each round with maybe needing to do one or 2 succors at the most only more then that if the dps fail to kill the bee's fast but I have been in a few teams that can down it before the bee's pop.

Lol, sorry. I have WHM and SCH at 50 and WHM far out damages scholar. Healing Demon wall is a nightmare on my SCH if the group is bad. I can carry awful groups through the fight on my WHM no problem. They each have their moments to shine but Demon Wall is not scholar's.

[AunaYuuki]

Lol, sorry. I have WHM and SCH at 50 and WHM far out damages scholar. Healing Demon wall is a nightmare on my SCH if the group is bad. I can carry awful groups through the fight on my WHM no problem. They each have their moments to shine but Demon Wall is not scholar's.

SCH I don't believe was ever meant to be a main solo heal role. It's basically a support healer to a WHM. I have done the Demon wall on SCH and with some of the parties who are not well geared it is a nightmare. I still love my SCH. The class in itself SMN/SCH are both support classes. It isn't really a main DPS and it isn't really a main Healer.

[fanservice]

SCH I don't believe was ever meant to be a main solo heal role. It's basically a support healer to a WHM. I have done the Demon wall on SCH and with some of the parties who are not well geared it is a nightmare. I still love my SCH. The class in itself SMN/SCH are both support classes. It isn't really a main DPS and it isn't really a main Healer.

I wouldn't make up labels for who is what. Too open for interpretation, and usually inaccurate.

Call it for what it is; SCH cannot make up for mistakes soft-headed people make in 4 mans nearly as well, efficiently, easily, or as fast as WHM. That is all that's being said here. Demon wall happens to be the best situation to see that in action.

[kronpas]

SCH I don't believe was ever meant to be a main solo heal role. It's basically a support healer to a WHM. I have done the Demon wall on SCH and with some of the parties who are not well geared it is a nightmare. I still love my SCH. The class in itself SMN/SCH are both support classes. It isn't really a main DPS and it isn't really a main Healer.

That fght mechanic is very unfogiving for SCH, but it doesnt mean SCH is inferior/intended as support heal. No one want to play as support for another classes, SE went so far as making traditional pure support ilke BRDs to be DPS support classes, they shouldnt want to make SCH be purely a support heal in a game with only 2 healing classes (the same can say for tank, look at how loudly people cry for a WAR fix). Right now the issue is being masked by piles of class-breaking bugs, once its been shorted out we ll see if its true.

Besides, dont assume things from a single dungeon boss fight with random people.