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    Jesse Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animation View Post
    you need to learn positioning. :/
    1. You fought HM Titan as a level 49 conjuror?

    2. Ok, let's say I'm just bad and I need to relearn position. I should still be able to know when I've been hit and when I haven't been hit before a full second after the AoE goes off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    1. You fought HM Titan as a level 49 conjuror?

    2. Ok, let's say I'm just bad and I need to relearn position. I should still be able to know when I've been hit and when I haven't been hit before a full second after the AoE goes off.
    I'm level 50.
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    Fenwick Fuerlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    1. You fought HM Titan as a level 49 conjuror?
    Probably confused it for the story mode Titan.

    I do agree that it is fine though as long as you have good latency, if you don't have good latency it can be a nightmare.
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    Area Attacks and Latency Issues

    Producer and director Yoshi-P here.
    Thank you for all of your feedback on latency issues and the evasion of enemy attacks. As we continue working to address these issues in time for phase 4 and release, I'd like to inform you all of the current situation.This post will focus on area attacks that are difficult to evade, or still connect even if you appear to have avoided it.

    Damage taken when Ifrit uses Eruption.

    When Ifrit used eruption in phase 3, the animation had a momentary build-up before the explosion. Because of this momentary buildup, there was a slight delay between the server's check and the explosion. This has already been corrected for phase 4 and release.

    Damage taken for what looked like a near miss.

    1. Registering Player Damage

    In phase 3, when judging whether a character was standing in an attack's area of impact, your position was checked using a circle around your character to represent the space your character stands in.

    Furthermore, to keep the different races balanced, the radius of this circle was the same for all characters. Because of this, even if you appeared to have barely escaped the area of effect, a portion of the circle was still within range. This created the illusion that you barely evaded attack, with varying results depending on your race.
    For phase 4 and release, this circle has been reduced to a single point at the center of where your character is standing to more accurately determine your position.

    2. Enemy Progress Bars and Area of Impact

    Being an online game, there will always be a minimal delay when input is received from the player and sent back after being processed by the server.
    In FFXIV: ARR, your position is checked by the server once every 0.3 seconds. This timing is synced and processed according to the servers to prevent lag between your input and what you see.

    During phase 3, however, this syncing did not take place due to stringent server checks that took place, causing lag between what you saw on the enemy progress bar and your character's positioning. As a result, even if you appeared to be outside the area of impact when the progress bar was filled, damage was still taken.

    Adjustments are being made to reduce lag as much as possible, and syncing should improve the timing between enemy cast bars, area of effect markers, and the actual attacks.

    Rest assured that we're doing what we can to make sure players can safely evade attacks by watching enemy cast bars and markers for area attacks.

    Players overseas were also affected by having to access the Japan data center in Version 1.0, as this further delayed the relay of data from the server. With the establishment of a regional data center and the above measures being taken to improve syncing with the servers, we will continue working to ensure an enjoyable gaming experience for all of our players.
    (Even with a great connection, I think there's still maybe a 0.1 second margin of error with the cast bar, so make sure to get out of the way when playing with your party. )
    July 29 2013
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    Kanzer Vardel
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_jones View Post
    July 29 2013

    That's old news, and has already been addressed. The people still complaining about it now are for the large part just people who may not have the best reaction time, or may not have the best internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzer View Post
    That's old news, and has already been addressed. The people still complaining about it now are for the large part just people who may not have the best reaction time, or may not have the best internet.
    I know. There seemed to be a sentiment shared with the first few posts that implied the issue was being ignored. I thought it might be helpful to provide that information for those who were not in the know.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_jones View Post
    I know. There seemed to be a sentiment shared with the first few posts that implied the issue was being ignored. I thought it might be helpful to provide that information for those who were not in the know.
    That was the acknowledgement of the issue I was referring to, however nothing has been done to fix it yet. People are still getting hit by AOE's after clearing the attack, whether connected locally or non-locally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzer View Post
    That's old news, and has already been addressed. The people still complaining about it now are for the large part just people who may not have the best reaction time, or may not have the best internet.
    I have 50ms latency and I have to time it perfectly to not get hit by stuff on the ground. And when I do get hit for some reason it does not show that I have been hit for about a second after the cast bar dissappears. Mr all pro video game player please teach me how to avoid a 400ms latency. I guess I have to avoid latency harder. There was something similar than this in SWTOR and it was fixed about a month after release. This is a problem it's just fanboi's cant see it. I have been raiding in MMO's for years and have never had a problem avoiding red stuff until this game. There are numerous threads about this, it is not just a select few having an issue with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    I have 50ms latency and I have to time it perfectly to not get hit by stuff on the ground. And when I do get hit for some reason it does not show that I have been hit for about a second after the cast bar dissappears. Mr all pro video game player please teach me how to avoid a 400ms latency. I guess I have to avoid latency harder. There was something similar than this in SWTOR and it was fixed about a month after release. This is a problem it's just fanboi's cant see it. I have been raiding in MMO's for years and have never had a problem avoiding red stuff until this game. There are numerous threads about this, it is not just a select few having an issue with this.
    Obviously it is a select few, as I see more people posting who DON'T have issues, than people who do. Me being one of them. Maybe those who don't have issues simply adapt better, whose to say? My point is it's not a hopeless situation in the least.
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    Soraxas Straeh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    I have 50ms latency and I have to time it perfectly to not get hit by stuff on the ground. And when I do get hit for some reason it does not show that I have been hit for about a second after the cast bar dissappears. Mr all pro video game player please teach me how to avoid a 400ms latency. I guess I have to avoid latency harder. There was something similar than this in SWTOR and it was fixed about a month after release. This is a problem it's just fanboi's cant see it. I have been raiding in MMO's for years and have never had a problem avoiding red stuff until this game. There are numerous threads about this, it is not just a select few having an issue with this.
    Move out of the way. I haven't had any problem since P4 started. At all. I haven't checked my latency lately, (last I checked, I had 700ms) however my internet is probably just above the legal limit to sell. Me and my brother both play on this horrendous .8 download and .15 upload. Neither of us have any issues with AoE circles, cones or strips. Just move faster is all you need to do.

    /thread

    In regards to the video, I would love to know what YOUR internet speeds/latency are. They are probably even worse than mine.
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    Last edited by OrganizationXIll; 09-17-2013 at 12:06 AM. Reason: 1000EffinCharacterLimit

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