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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigog View Post
    Sir, I'm playing a tank and still need to wait ridiculous times... not for a party but for an instance. The problem at hand is bad coding/bad servers to support the game. This is what is being complained about.
    Yeah, but that's also why I mentioned that it's a new system for a new game. It's not even been a month since official release. The queue times for dungeons is not the only problem they need to worry about, yet it's also one of the more potentially expensive problems they want to fix. It's going to have some limitations that were not expected or perhaps that are needed for current stability (due to the rush of players).

    Think of it like triage, if you're familiar with that. It has some problems, but it works, and in a reasonably short/acceptable amount of time. It can be addressed after more priority situated problems get fixed. Like, for example, I think many people can agree that the RMT spam is a bit more problematic atm. Not to mention making sure the 3102 and 90k errors keep to a minimum, in light of reopening digital sales soon. Patience is a virtue, and a reasonable (but likely temporary) wait time for everyone is acceptable for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    Yeah, but that's also why I mentioned that it's a new system for a new game.
    The Duty Finder is not a new system... I hate to even mention the games name but its a prime example... WoW's dungeon finder is the EXACT same as the duty finder. It pairs people cross server etc but theirs even lets you see people on you own server such as guildies and friends as well as talking with them. SE's version is nothing more then a dumbed down broken version of what many other companies have already done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigog View Post
    The Duty Finder is not a new system... I hate to even mention the games name but its a prime example... WoW's dungeon finder is the EXACT same as the duty finder. It pairs people cross server etc but theirs even lets you see people on you own server such as guildies and friends as well as talking with them. SE's version is nothing more then a dumbed down broken version of what many other companies have already done.
    It's likely new tech for them. We don't have an inherent ability to understand everything about something just because someone else might know it. We wouldn't need schools if that were the case. Maybe I'm just out of the loop on this shared ability humanity has though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brigog View Post
    You must be nuts... your comparing chat that you can ignore if you wish to something that PREVENTS you from playing the game at lvl 50... my mind is blown!
    ? Are you saying that you literally cannot get into dungeons in DF ever? Like even after waiting 10hrs, it will never work for you? Since that's what would happen if something actually "PREVENTS" you from doing something. It blocks you completely. Now, as I'm sure it'll be taken out of context, that 10hrs was an exaggeration to emphasize a point.
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    Wait, wait let me get this straight. Something that inconveniences you for a split second is worse than the duty finder issue? Are you honestly trolling right now?
    I mean, your entire post is a contradiction; you claim that the DF works even if there is a delay, even when you have a party, but you believe that having to open your blist once every hour or a couple times in a short span due to switching main cities is an extreme problem and one requiring the immediate attention of all the devs to fix this extremely game breaking problem.
    For real?
    The current blist problem is less disruptive because it works, and at an acceptable level. It's technically a problem, but not one that disrupts the game.

    Then you have the audacity to believe yourself a mature and experienced gamer?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    It's likely new tech for them. We don't have an inherent ability to understand everything about something just because someone else might know it.
    If its already been done then they simply need to look at what others have done and modify code to work for them. That said, we are not gini pigs for SE to practice on. We paid for a product and we expect it to work. There is nothing odd about this because if you bought a car and it didnt work but they said they work working on a fix for it but didnt have an ETA you would be pissed.



    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    ? Are you saying that you literally cannot get into dungeons in DF ever?
    AGAIN, the game was designed for the casual player. The casual player or any player for that mater does not want to be in ques for 30-45+ min due to shabby coding/servers when they PAID for something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigog View Post
    If its already been done then they simply need to look at what others have done and modify code to work for them. That said, we are not gini pigs for SE to practice on. We paid for a product and we expect it to work. There is nothing odd about this because if you bought a car and it didnt work but they said they work working on a fix for it but didnt have an ETA you would be pissed.




    AGAIN, the game was designed for the casual player. The casual player or any player for that mater does not want to be in ques for 30-45+ min due to shabby coding/servers when they PAID for something.
    Tech, and knowledge about them, is not shared directly between companies, and is generally not something simple enough to understand (or even find) just by using Google. Actually, as long as the product works (and reasonably so, given the situation), I wouldn't be pissed. Depending on what it is, maybe a little disappointed, but again... situational. I've had enough time with MMORPGs (and working in management) to fully grasp the idea that things can go wrong. Be it on our end or theirs, and whether or not said problems are really cause for crisis reactions. In a gloomy perspective towards MMORPGs, you are a guinea pig. They can't make their servers 100% capable of upkeep regardless of the number of players or any errors that might occur. It's silly to even think it possible. So when it happens, you were part of the unintended test.

    Like I pointed out in a previous response, not everything is tailored for casual players. Some elements are tailored for casual play, just as some elements are tailored for hardcore players. Certain elements of core play are friendly for the generic player to get used to (casual play), but dedicating an hour or two of play is not something a "casual" player can't do. It's an expectation of MMORPG players in general, casual or not.

    Learn about the systems for the genre of MMORPGs, and you will understand that problems WILL happen. It's an inevitable problem for the genre itself that, based on the fact it's inevitable, cannot be prevented from happening, but it can usually be fixed over time. The queue times for solo queue being 30-45+min isn't exactly unusual for DPS classes (I know you're a tank), but for your role, it seems to be unusual. Not sure why it's a crisis though...
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