Amdapor Keep Changes Unfair

[civilpaw]

if speed runs were intended or not wasn't the point, they obviously weren't point is it happened some people sowed great rewards from it, now it's left all the others at a boring, unfair disadvantage

While valid, thats not the point either.
The point is that running AK over and over ad nauseam just isnt fun. its not just not fun, its unfun. It makes playing the game the opposite of fun.
edit: forgot to reiterate the point that the speed runs made things not unfun enough to quit over, just unfun enough to dread doing.

[MrFoxx]

What's the rush, gotta clear coil before your free playtime runs out? lol

What the rush? You honestly think people should farm AK for 60+ hours before doing titan?

[HiirNoivl]

You clearly havnt played WoW. That or quit before mid-LK.

Is that what you played before this?

They've been slowly making the content last longer. You didn't always need 9 coke for Darksteel synths. Now you do. Yoshi P said that you would not be able to complete all the content before the next patch. Yoshi P said that only a small handful of people will clear Binding Coil before Patch 2.1

Turns out he meant it!

[Orophin]

Uh guys, you're not supposed to complete everything the game has to offer within a week.

What's done is done. It's not like they're going to go through their logs to find out who was taking advantage of the bad dungeon mechanics and wipe out their tokens.

While valid, thats not the point either.
The point is that running AK over and over ad nauseam just isnt fun. its not just not fun, its unfun. It makes playing the game the opposite of fun.

How was running heroics over and over and over in WoW anymore fun?

[Riffy]

While valid, thats not the point either.
The point is that running AK over and over ad nauseam just isnt fun. its not just not fun, its unfun. It makes playing the game the opposite of fun.

I do agree w this tho. Can't imagine going from speed runs to actually clearing AK now, holy shit. And now more mobs?! lol!

[civilpaw]

Is that what you played before this?

They've been slowly making the content last longer. You didn't always need 9 coke for Darksteel synths. Now you do. Yoshi P said that you would not be able to complete all the content before the next patch. Yoshi P said that only a small handful of people will clear Binding Coil before Patch 2.1

Turns out he meant it!

That was the most non sequitur reply ive ever read.

[civilpaw]

Uh guys, you're not supposed to complete everything the game has to offer within a week.

What's done is done. It's not like they're going to go through their logs to find out who was taking advantage of the bad dungeon mechanics and wipe out their tokens.


How was running heroics over and over and over in WoW anymore fun?

Thats the thing... I never had to. I ran each heroic maybe 3-4 times before getting in to raiding. Hell, in BC I entered Karazhan within 30 min of hitting 70 and was still partly in greens. And we cleared the first 3 bosses in the first night.
Now that might say that the content was too easy (and the first few bosses in Kara were), but the fact of the matter is that it wasnt a huge grind to get in to raiding. It never was in WoW. Not even in classic did I have to go thru this sorta grind to get to the real content.

Not to mention, there were how many heroics available in each expansion? This game has 2 dungeons, only 1 of which is viable. And it was the gear you got from the heroic bosses you took in to raids. And while the Justice system did come about with heroics in BC, you didnt need that gear to start raiding. it just helped supplement bad drop luck.

[Rhen]

Running heroics in WoW was more fun because there was more than one dungeon that dropped endgame currency. We have 1 dungeon that drops a decent amount of stones of both kinds and at the least are forced to doing it 8 times week. 8 hours a week grinding the same dungeon is boring, shitty game design, and is generally a bad idea.

The only reward you get for clearing trash now is a larger repair bill, YAAAY. Thanks SE for shitting on your hardcore fan base, good job. I understand wanting us to kill the stuff, but make the mobs worthwhile in some small way. Make a nice, clean, fast run at least offset the repair cost if not net a tiny profit. Come on.

[civilpaw]

Running heroics in WoW was more fun because there was more than one dungeon that dropped endgame currency. We have 1 dungeon that drops a decent amount of stones of both kinds and at the least are forced to doing it 8 times week. 8 hours a week grinding the same dungeon is boring, shitty game design, and is generally a bad idea.

The only reward you get for clearing trash now is a larger repair bill, YAAAY. Thanks SE for shitting on your hardcore fan base, good job. I understand wanting us to kill the stuff, but make the mobs worthwhile in some small way. Make a nice, clean, fast run at least offset the repair cost if not net a tiny profit. Come on.

Basically this, with the exception that in WoW you also got good gear from the heroics instead of crap that was only intended to be an interim until you could afford the gear from the currency.

Heck, with the changes to the Justice system they put in to MoP, the gear you get via the currency is actually worse than the gear you get from the dungeon. The valor gear only covers 2 slots? 3? Dont remember, and it is only available for the starting tier. The higher tier stuff is from reputations... but thats a whole other can of very, very dead worms.

[Alphawins]

Running heroics in WoW was more fun because there was more than one dungeon that dropped endgame currency. We have 1 dungeon that drops a decent amount of stones of both kinds and at the least are forced to doing it 8 times week. 8 hours a week grinding the same dungeon is boring, shitty game design, and is generally a bad idea.

The only reward you get for clearing trash now is a larger repair bill, YAAAY. Thanks SE for shitting on your hardcore fan base, good job. I understand wanting us to kill the stuff, but make the mobs worthwhile in some small way. Make a nice, clean, fast run at least offset the repair cost if not net a tiny profit. Come on.

that's 8 hours a week with a zero wait time queue. add in the timer for dps classes and your looking at 12. Realistically speaking you're looking closer to 14 with failed runs factored in.