Amdapor Keep Changes Unfair

[Janda]

if it was an exploit that needed fixing, then why do all the people who exploited get to keep their benefit?

If you knew anything about rollbacks then you would understand its not easy to rollback specific characters who may have exploited the speed runs and even if they could do so, how would they easily tell who worked for it all day everyday versus the exploiters? This also takes away manpower at SE from focusing on further issues in the game or developing the patches. Perhaps some of you recall the problem in TERA with the exploiters abusing white alkahest to enchant their weps instead of the more expansive powders and in the end they couldnt roll us all back, nor the abusers. They fixed the exploit but the dmg was done.

The only other option would be a server wide rollback which would cause the rest of us who havnt even hit 50 yet to suffer more so than those who can play all day because we have work to contend with most days of the week.

The way i see it is: it will come to a point like it does in all mmo's ive played thus far that the ones who speed ahead will be caught up by the rest of us who play less but just as skillfully in terms of content completion. They may lord it over others now but that never lasts. They will have nothing more than bragging rights saying "i beat this before you, therefore im awesome and you need to make a temple in my honour!"

[Shiyo]

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See, the AF2 gear isnt the only option at that point. Im absolutely fine with the Mythology tokens being a means of supplementing raid gear. Same in WoW with Valor points. Except Valor isnt a huge pain in the ass to get, and you dont actually need it, as getting in to the end game content isnt a huge hurdle. Its the endgame itself is the hurdle (fairly low set hurdle, but fun).

The grind for Darklight is boring. And theres not another option. The crafted ilevel 70 gear is crap in comparison.

Ilvl70 gear is superior to ilvl90 in certain slots for certain classes and vastly superior to darklight in almost every situation when melded.

[Purutzil]

Make mobs drop... I don't know... gil? SOmething to make it feel as if some progress is made by fighting them. As of now it feels as if its forcing more repairs rather then being very useful.

Grind wise... yes, stuff IS suppose to take time, that is the point. The issue is making it feel like you are getting something out of it that right now its lacking a bit of that.

[Theodric]

It's not 'unfair' to have to a do a dungeon as it was originally intended. I'm honestly baffled that people believe that being able to skip large portions of the dungeon was a style Square-Enix wanted to encourage. I agree that there needs to be more rewards for completing dungeons and possibly more treasure chests with allagan pieces to sell for gil tied to trash packs that have to be defeated in order to advance.

[Alphawins]

LOL You do realize that it's going to take you 3 months for the level 90 tier gear... right?

My WAR to be fully geared in AF2 Nov 18......

not talking about mythology, you seem to forget philosophy since you dont need any, the point of this thread is newer 50's are gonna spend tons more time farming philosophy

[HiirNoivl]

not talking about mythology, you seem to forget philosophy since you dont need any, the point of this thread is newer 50's are gonna spend tons more time farming philosophy

I am talking about Philosophy. You seem to forget that all MMOs are a grind so that the content lasts longer. Philosophy is a grind, mythology is a grind. Hamlet seals were a grind in 1.0.

If you don't want to grind, you're really playing the wrong genre.

[Alphawins]

I am talking about Philosophy. You seem to forget that all MMOs are a grind so that the content lasts longer. Philosophy is a grind, mythology is a grind. Hamlet seals were a grind in 1.0.

If you don't want to grind, you're really playing the wrong genre.

the point is they made this grind 300-500% longer making it unfair to the people who just leveled or dont have a lot of time to play as it is

[Themis]

the point is they made this grind 300-500% longer making it unfair to the people who just leveled or dont have a lot of time to play as it is

They didn't make it longer at all. They've actually made it the intended length they decided on when they designed this part of the game. The "speed run" exploit made it faster, is all.

[Kanzer]

the point is they made this grind 300-500% longer making it unfair to the people who just leveled or dont have a lot of time to play as it is

So? Cry more. It's the nature of things. You could have leveled quicker and took advantage of the AK speed runs just as easily as everyone else. Nothing was stopping you except yourself. There's nothing unfair about it.

p.s. I am fine with having to do mind numbing CM runs but one thing to note, this run does not yield the top gear currency like AK so yet again those exploiters won big time since they got to earn a ton of those already. It seems I have terrible luck, every time there is an exploit (in any MMO) that devs do not punish for...I have missed the opportunity once again. /jealous!

There's a cap on mythology, so no one is running around with tons of tokens. The biggest advantage on those anyone could possibly have is 300 since one of the maintenance's reset them. And that's IF they had already capped before hand.