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  1. #111
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    Driium's Avatar
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    Maxii Alistaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by gl0ry View Post
    People here are either lying or they aren't actually monitoring their FPS.

    I'm on an i7 3770k @ 5ghz and I have 2 GTX 780's.

    The game uses 35-45% of my CPU and in Single card mode anywhere from 80-99% GPU usage, but in SLI usually only around 40-60% usage on each card and it introduces weird issues with the game going slow and fast unless I disable the second card.

    The game isn't optimized at all. In open fields and dungeons I get over 200 FPS, but in towns I can go as low as 30 fps. Anyone who is telling you they get 60 FPS in towns is bluffing. Sitting still My fps could be a solid 80, but the minute I budge my camera, even in the same location it will drop to 45fps, then go right back up to 80.

    I get about 23k on the benchmark and score over 200 average FPS. The benchmark is very well optimized, while the actual game has yet to implement real multi-card support.
    I've got to agree with Gl0ry,

    Anyone who claims to be getting 60FPS in towns or under the same circumstances several people are seeing the same drop are:

    1) Running at the lowest possible settings. Or lying.
    2)Not monitoring their FPS and not noticing the apparent drops.
    3)Needs to start mass producing their rigs to sell on ebay as FFXIV machines because you've managed to put together a rig that meshes with this game perfectly somehow. You'll make millions.

    Its not just fps dropping when panning/ looking towards fates/aetherite hubs from a miles aways, even modest fps drops down to 40 FPS (Which should still look smooth) looks stuttery. I myself am using an I7 960 @ 3.6Ghz paired with a GTX 770, as well as an I7 3770K with a gtx 760 the fps drop is exactly the same when comparing the two under the same circumstances side by side.

    There is a distinct difference between a smooth drop in fps down to 30 which I can acknowledge when in densely populated areas (Which is normal and tolerable), And the stuttery inconsistent frame rate mess that some of us are experiencing despite having VERY capable hardware setups.
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    Last edited by Driium; 09-12-2013 at 04:09 PM.

  2. #112
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    Syx's Avatar
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    Tarnished One
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 9
    Quote Originally Posted by gl0ry View Post
    People here are either lying or they aren't actually monitoring their FPS.

    I'm on an i7 3770k @ 5ghz and I have 2 GTX 780's.

    The game uses 35-45% of my CPU and in Single card mode anywhere from 80-99% GPU usage, but in SLI usually only around 40-60% usage on each card and it introduces weird issues with the game going slow and fast unless I disable the second card.

    The game isn't optimized at all. In open fields and dungeons I get over 200 FPS, but in towns I can go as low as 30 fps. Anyone who is telling you they get 60 FPS in towns is bluffing. Sitting still My fps could be a solid 80, but the minute I budge my camera, even in the same location it will drop to 45fps, then go right back up to 80.

    I get about 23k on the benchmark and score over 200 average FPS. The benchmark is very well optimized, while the actual game has yet to implement real multi-card support.
    Quote Originally Posted by Driium View Post
    I've got to agree with Gl0ry,

    Anyone who claims to be getting 60FPS in towns or under the same circumstances several people are seeing the same drop are:

    1) Running at the lowest possible settings. Or lying.
    2)Not monitoring their FPS and not noticing the apparent drops.
    3)Needs to start mass producing their rigs to sell on ebay as FFXIV machines because you've managed to put together a rig that meshes with this game perfectly somehow. You'll make millions.

    Its not just fps dropping when panning/ looking towards fates/aetherite hubs from a miles aways, even modest fps drops down to 40 FPS (Which should still look smooth) looks stuttery. I myself am using an I7 960 @ 3.6Ghz paired with a GTX 770, as well as an I7 3770K with a gtx 760 the fps drop is exactly the same when comparing the two under the same circumstances side by side.

    There is a distinct difference between a smooth drop in fps down to 30 which I can acknowledge when in densely populated areas (Which is normal and tolerable), And the stuttery inconsistent frame rate mess that some of us are experiencing despite having VERY capable hardware setups.

    FINALLY, people with COMMON SENSE. They are absolutely correct. This game is NOT optimized. NO ONE has consistent framerates. All the previous points I argued regarding FFXIV's use of DX9 and its unsupported graphical features ring true for every single PC player REGARDLESS OF THEIR HARDWARE. WE ALL EXPERIENCE THE SAME ISSUE AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS ANSWERED MY CHALLENGE TO PROVE ME WRONG REGARDING THESE FRAMERATE DROPS IN THE RELEASE VERSION; because you CANNOT. Until the graphical features they implemented are moved from the engine to the DirectX API, performance will always be impacted in crowded areas. Even after DX11 is supported, there is no guarantee that it will make a discernible difference.
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  3. #113
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    Retrograde's Avatar
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    Dema Blackwood
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 37
    I can't really tell what this thread is about, but I have my own in-town problems.

    Generally, I'm in the 40-60 range in towns with an nVidia GTX 780 at 2560x1440 resolution. But in the last couple days with the crazy gold spam, the chat box seems to do something terrible to either the game/logging or my video drivers, and it drops to around 25 fps and is very noticeable. It wouldn't even recover after shutting down the game and restarting in a new area - I literally had to reboot the machine. No crashes, but something is wrong.

    Feels like an nVidia problem, but it's odd that it only appeared with the gold spam. Although I'm not convinced that SE's logging of chat and memory usage is optimal, it should have improved after a restart yet it didn't.

    I don't feel like I have a handle on this problem, it's weird.
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  4. #114
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    Mashkar Zhaar
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    Lancer Lv 22
    Do you feel any change after todays patch?
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  5. #115
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    Nabaa Raze
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    What os are you running? win xxx?

    1 problem is it's an I5 cpu. It's like the old Celeron's their good for running 1 application.
    no matter how much ram you want to stuff on your system.

    First thing I would do is load the game, an alt/tab to desktop hit ctrl-alt-delete, open task manager and on the bottom right resource monitor.

    What is the cpu load?
    If your pegging 90+%, more or less your beating your cpu to death trying to run the game.
    (note) being alt'd out to desktop an reading cpu load, that's an extra 15% tax on cpu) so subtract that from what you see.

    to save cpu power play the game in full mode (NOT windowed) windowed requires more memory and more cpu resources.

    Disable anti-virus while playing, or any other application that's taxing the cpu.
    Edit: Can also lower resolution to save memory, higher the res more mem you chew.
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    win 7 up to pro is 32bit with the 3.2gb limitations on memory.
    Even win 7 pro 32/64 bit, and according to microsoft still has the 3.2gb limitations.
    Only win 8 64 an win 7 ultimate takes advantage of memory over 4gb.
    in response to other people here. Only reason to have beyond 8gb ram in a system
    is if you have a (toaster video, workstation card)and render video clips, or cad, or video editing. Windows will never use beyond 8gb for any game. (until games are written for 4-8 cores).

    Even thou you may have 8-16-32gb in your machine, theirs a number interger that counts the memory, so you physically see how much you have, Does not necc mean windows can access it.
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    If your on an i5 laptop, the chip has integrated graphics, if you have a real v-card also make sure in bios the video section of the chip is off. Because it still can run at the same time as your video.
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    I'm running an old 2.66 Intel core 2 duo
    4gb ram
    win 7 ultimate
    and an hd6850 2gb video.

    With all the graphics turned on high, all the "bells and whistles" and the option in setting to allow free fps, an not locked at 60/32.
    res@ 1280x1024
    Out in the woods fields etc 80-120fps. cpu load at 70%
    In towns with a gob of people 30-40 cpu load at 85%
    in buildings like the huts with moving doors, 10-20 (which is odd) cpu load 85%
    Fates- depending on people 10-30. cpu load 80-90%
    Major cities 10-20fps and 100% cpu.

    This game has severe rendering issues that's mostly tamed by high end graphics cards.
    (however the jet engine fans never cycle down lol)
    If you have a low end system, video etc, your going to have issues.
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    Last edited by Zok; 09-13-2013 at 08:02 AM.
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  6. #116
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    What are you on? seriously? only the X86 is limited to 4GB... the X64 is limited from 8GB all the way to 192GB. Not sure where you are getting your info from but you appear to be misunderstanding it.

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.85).aspx

    Please stop giving people bad information.
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  7. #117
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    ^This

    Many of us haven't used a 32bit build of windows since XP X64 released back in 2003.
    And there hasn't been any hardware sold capable of gaming on that's not supported 64bit for just as long.

    There's really no reason for somebody to go out and buy a 32bit OS for their gaming rig for a very long time.
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  8. #118
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    Just an update, I had drops to 10 FPS with a 7950 and i5 860, it ended up being my cpu fan I just never noticed in other games because I only play League, loaded up D3 and instantly noticed bad peformance. Anyways, I added a 620 Antec liquid cooler and now I am pretty seamless, I do get FPS drops, but only to about 30-40 with everything maxxed out.
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  10. #119
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    Diabolos
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    First of all, I have taken much information from this post.

    My system runs the game well but also has problems with lots of rendering andit doesnt really matter whether I'm using high or low settings the drops are the same in highly crowded areas. Now dropping from steady 60 to 30 in uldah on a Friday night.

    The people I talk to say 30 fps is fine and while I agree that 30 should be fin, it's just not. At 60 everything is smooth and nice once I drop to 30 it seems very stuttery and choppy by no means unplayable. I think I just have a severe case of ocd when I feel like a game can run better.

    I have tried everything! 13.6,13.8,13.10 drivers all caused crashes usually once a day but I did get slight boost from 13.8. I went back to 13.4 to see of this fixes the crashes.

    I have tried programs such as d3doverrider and afterburner and some helped some things some didn't. Mainly when vsync was on in game I was noticing a slight stutter in the world(no fps loss) and keeping vsync on in game and using limiter in the on screen display set to 60 seems to have fixes that for me.

    I5 3570k
    Z77 extreme4
    Cx500
    7870 2gb
    8 gb ram
    1 tb hd
    Win 7

    Anyone else have crashes with these drivers? Like I said I don't really Remember crashing on 13.4 but I updated drivers and started using msi after burner at the same time so I don't know for sure. I just went back to 13.4 last night and havnt crashed yet. Lowest dip since reverting has been 28 and that's why panning and jumping around in uldah near Ah. If I'm still it's at about 50-60. With 13.8 (def best performing driver) lowest dip I seen was 35 but seemed like less stutter, just can't deal with the random crashes.
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  11. #120
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I'm not having any issues with fps drops system specs:

    FX8350 OC 4.8ghz
    8gb Gskill Ram
    EVGA GTX 760 Superclocked(OC to boost to 1300mhz)
    Running triple monitors in Nvidia Surround
    Max settings I run 40fps and n any other settings 60fps

    If running on one monitor with Max settings it's 60fps with no drops in town.

    I have fps target set to 60 in evga precision.

    I use H80 cooler for CPU
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