Ampador Keep Nonsense.

[StormGryffen]

I am personally quite tired of seeing DPS in artifact gear in AK...

It probably doesn't help that many DPS are guided to AK by their GC questline, and unless AK is cleared, that method of gear upgrading gear is completely locked out. The only way for me to upgrade gear is to hit the palace again and again - it's a bit of a frustrating experience from my standpoint to essentially be yelled at for following my questline, but I eventually got the message.

You occasionally find a group that communicates like a civil group and gets things done, so it isn't all bad. In my experience, when it comes to MMOs endgame, the loudest players are often the biggest liability to the group. It's always give them everything they want or they're going home with their toys.

[Sterob]

i should have frap-ed my no-killing-the-2-bees demon wall in AF gear

[Giyari]

So, if you're tired of seeing DPS in Artifact gear where else are we to go for upgrades? You may as well shove this idea into WP and HM Primals too.

I knew that as a BLM I would be at a huge disadvantage if I did AK in AF gear, so I spammed the story dungeons until I got a Darklight body and some other pieces, and now people don't leave my parties instantly. Not only that, being better equipped made me a little more confident in my abilities. The downside to having good gear, is that you look like an idiot when you die to something, or don't know how a fight works.

[Aletta_Serpentia]

you know, it wasnt really like this around 1.0. but now, this item level bull**** really lets people who already had gear to be some real elitist aholes.

people really forget that a week ago, they were still new to all this. I mean really. it makes no sense. gear!=skill. item level was the stupidest thing ever to bring into this game.

[Astralis]

I knew that as a BLM I would be at a huge disadvantage if I did AK in AF gear, so I spammed the story dungeons until I got a Darklight body and some other pieces, and now people don't leave my parties instantly. Not only that, being better equipped made me a little more confident in my abilities. The downside to having good gear, is that you look like an idiot when you die to something, or don't know how a fight works.

Not True. I'm a BLM and owned AK with artifact gear + company weapon.

Sure I pulled down my party for about 4times in demon wall, but after that, everything went smooth, and the future runs went smooth as well. In fact, even with an AF geared monk, we still downed the wall pretty fast, we didnt even bother killing the bees.



These Elitist just needs to know that, even though some just have AF gears, they can still learn to play and make the runs fast if given the patience.

[buShroom]

people really forget that a week ago, they were still new to all this. I mean really. it makes no sense. gear!=skill. item level was the stupidest thing ever to bring into this game.

While it's true that gear does not equal skill, at the same time, I found myself in an Aurum Vale run a couple of days ago with a WHM in all gear from that first group of starting dungeons (Copperbell et al). We wiped again and again and again and again and again. It has it's place.

[Aletta_Serpentia]

While it's true that gear does not equal skill, at the same time, I found myself in an Aurum Vale run a couple of days ago with a WHM in all gear from that first group of starting dungeons (Copperbell et al). We wiped again and again and again and again and again. It has it's place.

While I can understand that type of situation, where youve got gear that is WAY passed its prime, I cannot understand why someone with updated eq and AF would have to be rejected. and thats what is happening; that's the part that makes no sense. you are still within reason with your current equipment.

[Hanemakikaze]

Ran my first few AK today, and good lord I felt like I was back in WoW with all these screaming little assholes. No, seriously they haven't "attacked" me personally yet but god, this last guy raged at the tank the entire freaking run because he forgot to pull two, yes, TWO enemies that were guarding the acc coffer. Apparently that makes him a selfish scrub despite being a very good tank that was rushing the bosses before maint and just happened to miss those two enemies. Run before that, healer bitched at the summoner entire run for getting knocked off edge at demon wall despite us winning, kept bitching until we left the instance. I find all this so damn funny because I look at these people, and every single one of em were new players. It really makes no sense to me these attitudes people have in the 50 dungeons.


And on a side note, gear does not equal skill but certain gear is needed for certain encounters, good example would be HM Garuda. AK, not so much...after finally going in there I was like, is that it? The instance everyone has been clamoring over is a freaking joke, very disappointing.

[Kinseykinz]

This game can be very discouraging and elitist at times, but there are still some nice people out there willing to let others learn the ropes ^^

We ran out of time, but I was in a group that was teaching a brand new to the dungeon tank right before maint. He was doing great...we got to demon wall with very few issues. I was a 'rep' WHM (I always cue to 'join party in progress' to help random groups that might need it) because his first one bailed when he said he was new :/

People can't learn if we don't teach. And really the game is NEW. 2 weeks old. If people want 'experienced only' Then they should FC/LS it. Not DF it.

[Comicbookguy]

We ran out of time, but I was in a group that was teaching a brand new to the dungeon tank right before maint. He was doing great...we got to demon wall with very few issues. I was a 'rep' WHM (I always cue to 'join party in progress' to help random groups that might need it) because his first one bailed when he said he was new :/

People can't learn if we don't teach. And really the game is NEW. 2 weeks old. If people want 'experienced only' Then they should FC/LS it. Not DF it.

That's the thing that cracks me up. The "ELITE" player are always yelling and screaming and I'm thinking, "If you're so ELITE...why are you in DUTY FINDER and not with your FC doing this???"

I expect crap when I use DUTY FINDER. There is a reason why we are using DUTY FINDER. It's because we don't have a STATIC group.

I had this dude rage and went on and on for about 10 minutes about how everyone sucked until he rage quit. Almost humorous.