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  1. #41
    Player
    Reuskon's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Renvi Renati
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by seikenflash View Post
    Threat gauge next to all party members names, watch it, learn it, love it!
    That's great, but I already knew that. Now to just try and teach that to all the other people, especially the ones that like fighting their own target.. I might just let them start dying and teach them the hard way.

    Also, someone mentioned healers gaining enmity via overheal.. first run in Tam-Tara, healer would use nothing but medica non-stop. I can't see them getting far in the game like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobolt View Post
    I may be able to heal mortal wounds, but i can't fix stupid.

  2. #42
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    ventlus's Avatar
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    Mizu Hana
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post

    So what is wrong? Gladiator/Pld is boring and not very good at multi-target tanking which is what most of the game is until endgame and even then there is some need for it. On top of this none of the tanks really feel like tanks at lower levels. We do terrible damage, can't really do much to keep ourselves safe and if any DPS wants to they can (and often do) pull things off the tank.

    So why should I or anyone play a class that is boring, low damage, high stress , and only slightly tougher than other classes?
    how bout you hit 50 before you make statements? paladins are great at aoe tanking your only lvl 25...., in fact paladins are the better tank over warrior atm
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  3. #43
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    Zaiken's Avatar
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    Celestia Raine
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by v_jones View Post
    Cure III is awful, and no, you aren't going to get my job's strongest heal. That would be idiotic. This is a team game, so you'll never be self sufficient in a dungeon/raid.
    lol, I didn't said Cure III. If you read what I said, I said Cure II, Cure III would be over power. Right now we only get Cure which heal very pathetic as a Paladin.
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  4. #44
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    Steeled's Avatar
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    Paladin is a Magic Tank class, they should at least get access to higher Cure, not just Cure which is pretty much useless imo.
    Have to agree here. DoW's Cure 1 is a joke. If the fight is going smooth, there's no reason for a paladin to cast gimpycure, and tbh, one mob usually hits me harder than/nearly as hard as I cure for. The only time it's really saved me is when the healer goes down and a mage steps up to try to heal me while the dd finish the boss.

    Something on a several second cooldown, with real potency, would be lovely. Also, make it cost 25% of my mana. I'm not a healer, but white magic is part of the oath I took up.

    Quote Originally Posted by AtraiusDelmar View Post
    I love tanking in this game. I have had NO issues with holding aggro either. I mean, all I do is hurl insults about various mothers and make salacious commentary and BAM! Aggro.

    Granted it's from my party members and they're usually screaming that some lizard man has just given them a horrible gash. But what do I say to this? TIS A FLESH WOUND! I SHALL HEAL THEE WITH MY LOW LEVEL CURE!

    The only problem is I usually find myself alone, and with an unfinished quest. Still working on it though.
    I like you.

    Advice, Flash is for shining a holy light upon thine enemies and not exposing your comrades to your most indecent parts.
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  5. #45
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    fides5566's Avatar
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    Character
    Gaia Vinlands
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 27
    Tanker in Midgardsormr are as many as DPS. They are every where and steal my job!! D:

    But, imo, tank is the most fun class to play in this game.
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  6. #46
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    v_jones's Avatar
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    Virus Jones
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    lol, I didn't said Cure III. If you read what I said, I said Cure II, Cure III would be over power. Right now we only get Cure which heal very pathetic as a Paladin.
    I know, and I said Cure III is awful. Cure II is a White Mage's strongest single target heal.
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  7. #47
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    ThricebornTony's Avatar
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    Thriceborn Tony
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 35
    I understand the OP's concern, but at 25 is he really able to make a statement like this with any fact?

    I know on Ex, there are all sorts of shiny Pallys and Maras running around with AF gear on. Sure doesn't look like a shortage to me that I've seen.

    Besides, at endgame there are usually only one/two tanks spots in any mmo that can be filled, and plenty of people have played enough to know that if your aren't that 'good geared' tank, you will sit your butt on the sidelines wishing you had rolled DPS because there are simply more spots to fill later.
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  8. #48
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Zumi Kasumi
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I don't mind tanking getting instaqueues and getting stones to gear out my other jobs.
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  9. #49
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    Mishakai's Avatar
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    Character
    Mishakai Katyn
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    Paladin is a Magic Tank class, they should at least get access to higher Cure, not just Cure which is pretty much useless imo. Cure III would be over power, but at least Cure II. In FFXI Paladin was so much fun because they get access to most of the Cure to generate Hate and can heal themself when needed, in FFXIV you rely soly on the Healer to keep you alive...
    When I played FFXI, Cure III was a one way trip to OOM unless you had a RDM with you. Cure III was never the primary hate generator either, since it left you with too little MP to flash, as well as making it harder to get XP chains in grinding PTs due to downtime between fights.

    Stoneskin IS your better cure. Avoiding DMG all together is just as good, if not better, since it allows the healer time to focus on other PT members if necessary. For 2x the mana you get something like 2.5-3x the mitigation.
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  10. #50
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Amyas Leigh
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    Not really that fun, you spam the 3 skills over and over again along with flash to get hate. You mark the Target so hoping the DPS would target that monster. You constantly have to tell them to attack only the Target you attack. Ranger always keep stealing your hate showing off their DPS. Our sub job skill Cure are pathetic making it worthless. Our damage is laughable.

    I hope they buff the Tank damage more, and at least gave them Cure 2.
    Shoulda went WAR then :P I'm tanking fine, even with dps and healers that are... overzealous and refuse to target marked mobs. (having pld to 50 helps though)

    Quote Originally Posted by ventlus View Post
    how bout you hit 50 before you make statements? paladins are great at aoe tanking your only lvl 25...., in fact paladins are the better tank over warrior atm
    A war with pld skills is better than a pld. More damage, more aoe +enmity plus we gots axes mate.
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    Last edited by Amyas; 09-12-2013 at 10:15 AM.

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