If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

[Kinseykinz]

I have swiftcast...and I use it. That said:

Just because I have it, doesn't mean I'll use it when you think I should.

1. You're dead, the rest of the party currently isn't, I need to keep it that way. So until I can safely take focus off healing them to raise you (even swiftly) you stay dead.
2. MP. Raise is NOT cheap.
3. Swiftcast is better used on other spells in the heat of battle. Demon Wall and Medica 2 say 'hi'. This means it might be on cooldown when you take a dirt nap.
4. 99.4% of the time, I was NOT the reason you died. So, yeah, you can wait until I have the MP and until the party is safe.

[Neoiceman]

The real heavy hitting AoE attacks takes a significant time to be cast from the bosses...like 3 sec in most scenarios so even if you have a 1000ms ping you will still be able to avoid it.Problem with 90% of them DPS classes is that tehy tunnel vision on their rotation and thus fail to avoid such attacks.

No it is not.
Let us think we have an lagspike from 2000ms than you have an reaktion- and movingtime about 1 second, you know what that mean? Yeah dead from Lag.
You ran out of the Zone stand still cast an Heal, than the Boss fire the Megaspell and you die 20m away from the Zone

[Awake]

No it is not.
Let us think we have an lagspike from 2000ms than you have an reaktion- and movingtime about 1 second, you know what that mean? Yeah dead from Lag.
You ran out of the Zone stand still cast an Heal, than the Boss fire the Megaspell and you die 20m away from the Zone

I will turn the table around now...if you have 2000ms ping you are holding back your team at endgame.And most probably even more than a WHM not havieng Swiftcast.

I am not saying Swiftcast is not helpfull, but saying it is required in order to kill endgame content is just silly to say the least.

[Adelphe]

I am getting swift cast but not because i think not having it will make me a bad healer, but because i can see the benefits of it, but like no2 in this thread, if your needing a raise
then in most cases you have just done something wrong.

[UMiahNaweh]

Swiftcast sure is a nice spell to have. I LOVE having it as a Summoner. As a Summoner, I actually use Swiftcast for resurrection more often than for other stuff. I also often use it to cast Shadow Flare and sometimes to instant cast Bio II or Miasma, and sometimes to resummon a pet in battle. I find myself resurrecting dead healers fairly often, and if I had to spend 10 seconds doing it everyone would die, but it has actually saved the party on numerous occasions.

So... yeah, Swiftcast is pretty great. That's all I'll say on this topic though lol

[Sove92]

I will turn the table around now...if you have 2000ms ping you are holding back your team at endgame.And most probably even more than a WHM not havieng Swiftcast.

I am not saying Swiftcast is not helpfull, but saying it is required in order to kill endgame content is just silly to say the least.

You're saying you should not do endgame if you have a high ping, which is something you 99% of the time have no control over? Who are you to deny a right a player paid for? A good party can adapt to lag by expecting a laggy player to get hit and prepare for that.

And the party of a person with 2000ms ping also paid for the right not to have said person in their group. It's your right to attempt end-game content but you're not entitled to having the entire party compensate for your crappy latency unless it was agreed upon in the first place.

If you are using DF, you have no say over the party members. If you make a custom party, then the leader has a say.

[AsakuraVN]

The real heavy hitting AoE attacks takes a significant time to be cast from the bosses...like 3 sec in most scenarios so even if you have a 1000ms ping you will still be able to avoid it.Problem with 90% of them DPS classes is that tehy tunnel vision on their rotation and thus fail to avoid such attacks.

Have you ever tried playing the game at 600ms? Let alone 1000ms? Avoiding AoE isn't as easy as taking several steps outside of the zone, but running really far away to ensure 100% dodge, & a lot of times it's not even working. It isn't the players' fault, it's the game coding for syncing player's position on server's side, while most MMOs are client's side. So ppl have to live with it & be prepared for it, rather than letting the whole pt wipe just because no one can insta-raiseLoading...

[hours]

You're saying you should not do endgame if you have a high ping, which is something you 99% of the time have no control over? Who are you to deny a right a player paid for? A good party can adapt to lag by expecting a laggy player to get hit and prepare for that.

And the party of a person with 2000ms ping also paid for the right not to have said person in their group. It's your right to attempt end-game content but you're not entitled to having the entire party compensate for your crappy latency unless it was agreed upon in the first place.

If you are using DF, you have no say over the party members. If you make a custom party, then the leader has a say.

My point is, exactly, you have no say over other party members. If others do not agree with you in any way, they can leave.

[Awake]

You're saying you should not do endgame if you have a high ping, which is something you 99% of the time have no control over? Who are you to deny a right a player paid for? A good party can adapt to lag by expecting a laggy player to get hit and prepare for that.

I tihnk you have a problem with reading.I never said you should not do endgame...

I dont even understand how can you play with ping above 300ms, i know i wouldnt no matter how much i like the game in question.

[Wriith]

I'm going to have to at least partially agree with the OP. Swiftcast is fantastic and serves as a great boon to any WHM, SCH, or SMN. Sure, it isn't required, but it can certainly turn the tide of battle if used to get off an emergency cure or rez a DPS that made a fatal error. I'd also like to echo what some other players have brought up in this thread; the skill's utility doesn't stop at merely healing and rezzing. It can be used for a myriad of things ranging from re-summoning pets to shielding allies before an AoE. The skill itself is invaluable and I'd highly suggest that all players able to cross-class it seriously look into doing so, if not now, at least sometime in the future.