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  1. #31
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Or... Get an FC, LS or group of friends who don't care how you gear.

    iLevel is about as relevant as Duty Finder Pickups in the fact that it's NOT relevant if you have an FC/LS and don't have to use it.
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  2. #32
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    Kyriea's Avatar
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    Kyriea Nova
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    It's not really about being elitist. You have to stop being lazy with your gear at endgame because things get difficult. If you aren't properly geared then you're just wasting other people's time. AF is fine for AK but not optimal for speedruns. You should definitely not be using AF past HM Ifrit. And if you're too lazy to at least get the best GC weapon then you definitely shouldn't be doing endgame content.
    See this is where my point comes in. Too lazy to get the best GC weapon? But wait a second, the best GC weapon is available once you beat AK, so your point is invalid. That would mean people aren't being lazy with their gear, they are actually doing exactly what you're saying and getting the best GC weapon.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Or... Get an FC, LS or group of friends who don't care how you gear.

    iLevel is about as relevant as Duty Finder Pickups in the fact that it's NOT relevant if you have an FC/LS and don't have to use it.
    Except there will be ilevel gear requirements in 2.1. It's stop people from rushing content and doing it unprepared.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriea View Post
    See this is where my point comes in. Too lazy to get the best GC weapon? But wait a second, the best GC weapon is available once you beat AK, so your point is invalid. That would mean people aren't being lazy with their gear, they are actually doing exactly what you're saying and getting the best GC weapon.
    I know that. I was referring to HM primals with that remark. I already said AF is fine for AK. AK is actually the best place to start upgrading from AF.
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  5. #35
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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriea View Post
    That would mean people aren't being lazy with their gear, they are actually doing exactly what you're saying and getting the best GC weapon.
    You don't even need to bother with the L50 GC weapon, you can farm Wanderer's Palace for the Darklight weapon which is on par with the GC weapon.
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  6. #36
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    Valkyria Mooncrest
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rythless View Post
    I honestly hope all the casual whiners and F2P fanbois do leave this game. Then maybe we can have a nice community again, like in XI.
    "Nice" community.
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  7. #37
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    Yoko Ceres
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mkilbride View Post
    It's such a shitty thing to do to a game. "You've got all LV50 gear, really good stuff, some of the best, but your GL is 65, and we only want people with GL70, so go away."
    Let's be honest, i've saw a lot of ppl doing Garuda (Brutal) with their AF and even a PLD with a sword lv.30 (he was playing pretty good tho, better than some darklight/relic PLD, but his stuff didn't follow well). I've done Titan yesterday, and let me say that a guys like that won't stay long on his feets.
    For High Level content it is a necessity, it's not like you can't farm easily token for darklight, and darklight is enough to reach good amount of HP to survive... What come with high ilvl, it's higher Vitality (and the others stats, but let's focus on this one only).

    I've saw the limit, i understand the necessity of it. gear level or not, people won't take you if your stuff is low.
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    Il est possible de dépassé la limite des 1ooo caractères, il suffit d'éditer son post ~

  8. #38
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    Unaki's Avatar
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    Xystel Unaki
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanuc1988 View Post
    I find it really weird that so many people use grey weapons over GC ones. Would only take a couple hours max to farm the needed seals.... maybe it's just an old way of thinking but my weapon comes before my gear.
    I am pretty late here but you can't promote yourself to Lieutenant without completing the Commander's level 50 quest which is "Complete Amdapor Keep".

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    You don't even need to bother with the L50 GC weapon, you can farm Wanderer's Palace for the Darklight weapon which is on par with the GC weapon.
    Um what? There is no Darklight weapon. The only "weapons" that drop in Palace are the blunted weapons and pieces to make the weapons required for A Relic Reborn. And those weapons are really damned expensive to get crafted or buy depending on the class.
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    Last edited by Unaki; 09-11-2013 at 03:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexxus View Post
    L reach good amount of HP to survive... What come with high ilvl, it's higher Vitality (and the others stats, but let's focus on this one only).


    exactly this
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  10. #40
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    Kyriea Nova
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I know that. I was referring to HM primals with that remark. I already said AF is fine for AK. AK is actually the best place to start upgrading from AF.
    My bad I thought you were also meaning you should get GC weapon before doing AK, but it does prove that according to SE AK should be possible when you complete the story (with AF). The communities attitude is what puts people off running it because everyone demands perfect gear or leaves and wastes your time. It is the problem with attitudes at the moment in duty finder rather than actual difficulty.


    Quote Originally Posted by Unaki View Post
    Um what? There is no Darklight weapon. The only "weapons" that drop in Palace are the blunted weapons and pieces to make the weapons required for A Relic Reborn. And those weapons are really damned expensive to get crafted or buy depending on the class.
    The darklight weapons are the weapons that drop from the Tonberry king - the main reward from doing the dungeon.
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