titan hard (hard for high latency)

[Ceol]

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I agree with you on the first part, but half a second is extremely fast. Figure: Your character is updated every ~300 ms. Then factor in the ping (I assume yours is either 90 or 120, so we'll call it 100 to make it nice) going to the server as well as back. You're looking at a 500 ms delay in actions. There's no real way around that, tbh. It's going to at least be delayed by [your ping] x 2 + [server processing], which tends to be about half a second. Playing right next to each other doesn't matter; it still has to go to the datacenter and back for both of you.

The problems with DF lag seem to be because of DF server congestion. I believe this is why SE is focusing so much on it. Your ping to the DF server doesn't matter if the DF server takes 400 ms to process your action due to severe congestion.

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[Ceol]

[2/2] -- (seriously SE, why are posts limited to 1,000 characters?)

Now, to the people complaining about 200 ms pings: Are you sure the problem is because you're 100 ms behind? The average reaction time is roughly 200 ms. If an enemy begins casting a two second attack, 200 ms has already passed due to ping. Then factor in your reaction time of 200 ms, running out of range (800 ms? sound about right?), the 200 ms for the server to process your final location outside of the circle... 1.4 seconds. So you have 600 ms of spare time.

This isn't to say you aren't experiencing lag problems. But perhaps it's not entirely due to your 200 ms ping? Maybe your local internet is shoddy, maybe it's something on your computer. But let's not jump the gun and blame one tenth of a second for all your problems.

[Hawklaser]

There is no problem with Titan, if you have any lag you need to more out of aoe ASAP. Do not finish your cast while you are in an aoe! I'm in Australia on a Japanese server, of course I have over 100 ping >.>. I downed him too.

Don't blame the game for your inability to move out of aoe just because you want to finish your cast.

I don't think Lancer's have any problems with needing to finish a cast before moving. And I do move as soon as I see am the target of Titan's abilities, or things like Chimera's Blue Eyes, it is just more often than not I still get caught by them even when have moved out of range. So in Titan's case, not only do I move out of the aoe, I also move towards a spot to not be tossed off the platform too because I can not rely on the indicators to know if I am going to avoid it or not.

Best example I have of how bad it is involves Chimera, according to my screen, I was farther away from the boss than the tank, and I got hit by blue eyes and he did not. If that is not an example of something being wonky I don't know what else to tell you.

[ElunaMay]

There is no problem with Titan, if you have any lag you need to more out of aoe ASAP. Do not finish your cast while you are in an aoe! I'm in Australia on a Japanese server, of course I have over 100 ping >.>. I downed him too.

Don't blame the game for your inability to move out of aoe just because you want to finish your cast.

Nobody is saying it is impossible.

People are just stating there's a noticeable delay between where you are, and where the server thinks you are and it shouldn't be worked around, it should be addressed.

[JyoonB]

There is no problem with Titan, if you have any lag you need to more out of aoe ASAP. Do not finish your cast while you are in an aoe! I'm in Australia on a Japanese server, of course I have over 100 ping >.>. I downed him too.

Don't blame the game for your inability to move out of aoe just because you want to finish your cast.

You idiot... people ARE moving out of the way & still getting hit.

[Crashar]

You idiot... people ARE moving out of the way & still getting hit.

Seems to be something that people are missing out on, I experienced it really stupidly today in "The Howling Eye" Trial, me and a friend was doing it with 2 randoms at the time, when it gets to the bit where the boss vanishes into some other location and does it's one shot, you just simply run behind the rocks, yet she ran behind the rocks in time and still got insta killed anyway and I actually saw her die right on top of us.

Now sure people can just say "get better" and "react faster", but do you know what I say? "Jog on mate", simply because we shouldn't have to have a much harder time in avoiding aoes which seems to be this games main gimmick and then when you find your self getting slapped or insta killed because of crap like that...yeah I think the player has a right to get annoyed.

[Silversnow]

I just did the normal titan last night and holy smokes. Not wanting to attempt hard mode for quite a while. Being on the west coast of cali I'm near the farthest away from servers state side and there is VERY little room for error on this due to ping. I'm actually quite curious if guestimated distance from servers could be used as a variable on how much leeway it gives you on time for monster attacks. For instance someone rocking out with 100 extra ping gets half a second more or whatever.

Anyways. Doable but annoying in its current state. >.<

[Holyhunter]

Can't believe people must defend something that's actually really wrong.
If you run the game at 260 ms (like me), YES you will have some serious issues, aoe's are not there to get you oneshotted before you actually notice them.
When you play with something that can instant kill you, you need a fast response, don't have to predict what will happen and survive just for luck.

please read my post here
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1207604

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

I have usually ~50ms in games.
On this game, there are situations (for unknown reasons) where I have like 4 seconds "desync".
Yea it's not latency, there is basically a desync between me and the server, it can't be latency because on Demon wall, I have to position myself ON the spell to evade to actually evade it, because of this "lag".

I don't know what's causing it but it's definitely increased difficulty ONLY FOR SOME PEOPLE. So, can you really keep saying that's it's an issue that players should solve and not devs? I feel something is wrong in your mind, if you think this.

[eyeshield99]

You idiot... people ARE moving out of the way & still getting hit.

agree ....