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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    MP is balanced by the cost of the skill and HP the amount of damage taken, the number has nothing to do with it.
    MP being balanced with the cost of the skill was not what I was talking about at all. Nor does the amount of HP being taken. I suggest re-reading what I was saying in previous posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adol View Post
    MP being balanced with the cost of the skill was not what I was talking about at all. Nor does the amount of HP being taken. I suggest re-reading what I was saying in previous posts.
    I know exatcly what you were refering too, mister condescendance.

    My CON at 47 has very similar MP to my WHM in 11 at 75, its not a huge difference, yes they are there for lastability but thats stating the plan obvious, FF11 didn't have stamina nor does most MMO's out there (outside of specific classes) so lets not pretend that its a needed mechanic to make the game more challenging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I know exatcly what you were refering too, mister condescendance.

    My CON at 47 has very similar MP to my WHM in 11 at 75, its not a huge difference, yes they are there for lastability but thats stating the plan obvious, FF11 didn't have stamina nor does most MMO's out there (outside of specific classes) so lets not pretend that its a needed mechanic to make the game more challenging.
    Actually i think stamina is just the manual mechanic version of our Auto-Attack feature we have in ffxi. Since the game was designed to be manual input oriented, you have to have some kind of limit to your actions.
    Now with that said, I will agree that I think MP should not be tied into the stamina bar, but the stamina bar should still exist. I only say that, because MP is already on a cast timer, it makes hardly any since to have MP on 2 separate timers.

    I wouldn't even mind if they dumped the MP cast timer, for the already existent stamina timer. At-least it would make since with the rest of the battle system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I know exatcly what you were refering too, mister condescendance.

    I don't believe anything I said showed any sign of "condescendence".
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    so your lets not pretend that its a needed mechanic to make the game more challenging
    I'm not entirely sure I understand what it is you're saying there (it wasn't very good english, sorry).
    But from what I am guessing you meant: I don't remember saying stamina was a "needed" mechanic to make it more challenging.

    If the devs rework the current battle system in to something more intuitive and dynamic than the current one then that's great.

    In the future please try and pick your tone of typing better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adol View Post
    Okay, so now you have fixed your typing error I'll have to ask a question.

    Just what is it you're referring to when you say "that its a needed mechanic". Do you mean the stamina bar. If so, aren't you somewhat agreeing with me? This is odd since I thought you were trying to disagree with me.
    I also said lets not pretend. :S

    Just to be clear I want the removal of the stamina guage, I thought that was clear.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 05-05-2011 at 11:52 AM.