Something should be done about Amdapor Keep.

[Mattia]

Fates are basically speed runs to 50.

[EmSix]

Honestly no.
Fighting trash mobs that offer no challenge whatsoever stops being fun after you do it the first few times. Having to do Amdapor at least 8 times a week alone would be unbearable if we had to kill the trash every time, trash isn't fun, ever.

[Jennestia]

Yeah, Yoshi said speed runs are abolished for the point of getting gear only for players to bring them back which is creeping into the other dungeons as well.

This is further proof this community needs to not state: "I want x" or "X should happen" because people always turn around and contradict the change/addition lol.

Honestly no.
Fighting trash mobs that offer no challenge whatsoever stops being fun after you do it the first few times. Having to do Amdapor at least 8 times a week alone would be unbearable if we had to kill the trash every time, trash isn't fun, ever.

This is ignoring the fact the people entering the keep the first time which btw isn't purely for relic reborn quest wouldn't have been "tired" of fighting the trash mobs there.

[Fraxture]

No Duty Finder for Speed Runs.
It's that simple, get your Free Company or gather friends or acquaintances from your server.

It's just cheating others who would want to queue a dungeon to DO a dungeon.

[Lefein]

Duty Finder could do with some more matching options.

Newb
Casual
Hardcore/Endgame
Farming Run
Mentor

Summat like that

I would really like something like this. Obviously, that's too many options, so I would funnel it to these three categories:
Quest Fulfillment
Experience and Equipment
Hardcore

That would pretty much make this the best system ever!

[Elaria]

I'm in the firm believer of, "You came in as a party, you die as a party.". That would end this issue real quick. Or like someone that posted that idea earlier about the amounts won at the end. If you bypass mobs you get a few. If you do a reasonable amount of trash kills you get the normal amount. Can go one further and clear whole dungeon there's a bonus of more tomes.

[Ahlen]

It's definitely not a good idea to leave it how it is, and will likely have unintended consequences on the games economy/progression speed.

People get gear faster -> People eat content faster -> People leave because SE can't keep up with the consumption.

Normally this only affects the hardcore crowd, but if anyone can do it easily the problem will be far more widespread.

[Aesthphron]

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As the thread has become off topic with such posts, the thread will now be closed.

[Lelouch001]

The thing that pisses me off about doing Amdapor Keep is that everyone in the DF expects you to do and know the speed run which is bull. How are new players to it supposed to learn the dungeon if its always speed run this speed run that and no explanation on what to do. DF needs some more options to avoid this type of crap.