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    Fengor Nurindall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coephoros View Post
    If by "disappointing", folks mean "boring", I could understand the argument. If folks mean "ineffective", then I disagree vehemently.
    I find that starting to call my character "Black Mage" only once they reach level 30 is a joke. I hit 30, did the required quests, and then sat there a little confused as I realized that nothing had actually changed. I was still the same boring Thaumaturge that I was for 30 levels, only now I had a purple rock that said I was a Black Mage. Whoopdie freaking doo. Why didn't you just call me that from the start and make sure there was actually something interesting waiting for me after 30 levels in this class and 15 in another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fengor View Post
    *continuation from this post*
    The ranged limit break that everyone uses shouldn't look more like a Black Mage spell than what I can cast. Level 30 is when I should have started getting face melting spells like a Firaga, Blizzaga, or Thundaga. (You know, spells that mark a Black Mage as a Black Mage?)

    That's another thing, the names of my spells are incredibly boring and sterile. Blizzard 1, Blizzard 2, Blizzard 3. Blizzard 3 is the upgrade to 1 that 2 should have been and 2 should have been a completely different named spell all on it's own. Actually it feels like when going from Blizzard 1 to Blizzard 3 and Fire 1 to Fire 3 I skipped a spell in there in terms of effect. If you insist on using these boring 1, 2, 3 naming conventions then at least use them correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fengor View Post
    *part 1*
    Quote Originally Posted by Fengor View Post
    *continuation from this post*
    • Blizzard 1: It's a small little burst of frozen moisture from the air, I'd call that appropriate for an entry level spell.
    • Blizzard 2: This should have been a single target spell just like one and should have used an ice spike erupting from the ground. (essentially the air freezing suddenly from the ground up)
    • Blizzard 3: This is perfect, don't change a thing. This feels like an end-game Black Mage spell. A giant, explosion of ice crystals as the air around an enemy freezes in an instant.

    Yeah, the class works right now, it's a solid class that sadly has some crap spells that are considered the "actual" black mage spells. Where I currently sit at 50, however, does not feel like I'm playing a black mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fengor View Post
    ..
    That's another thing, the names of my spells are incredibly boring and sterile. Blizzard 1, Blizzard 2, Blizzard 3. Blizzard 3 is the upgrade to 1 that 2 should have been and 2 should have been a completely different named spell all on it's own. Actually it feels like when going from Blizzard 1 to Blizzard 3 and Fire 1 to Fire 3 I skipped a spell in there in terms of effect. If you insist on using these boring 1, 2, 3 naming conventions then at least use them correctly.

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    You want to know something funny ?

    German Spell Names : ,-ra ,-ga
    Japanese Spell Names : ,-ra ,-ga
    France Spell Names : extra, mega

    English Spell Names : ,-II ,-III

    I'm not quite sure about France (i think they never used ,-ra ,-ga or ,-ja for FF), but JP and GER are using the Final Fantasy suffix system we all love and know.

    English seems to be the only language which uses the old System. Old because only old FF games (FFI,II.. till FFVII) used the numerical system. (Remakes of older games have replaced the numerical system with the suffix system, for example FFVII)
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    Last edited by -Snow; 09-07-2013 at 03:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Snow View Post
    You want to know something funny ?

    German Spell Names : ,-ra ,-ga
    Japanese Spell Names : ,-ra ,-ga
    France Spell Names : extra, mega

    English Spell Names : ,-II ,-III

    I'm not quite sure about France (i think they never used ,-ra ,-ga or ,-ja for FF), but JP and GER are using the Final Fantasy suffix system we all love and know.

    English seems to be the only language which uses the old System. Old because only old FF games (FFI,II.. till FFVII) used the numerical system. (Remakes of older games have replaced the numerical system with the suffix system, for example FFVII)
    Yeah I remember that lengthy discussion from the beta forums. If I remember right, the localization team told us that we got the boring names because they felt we were too stupid to understand the ra/ga names. (Not in those exact words mind you, but that was essentially the gist of their reasoning; then they went and applied said reasoning incorrectly to the spells.)
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    Raistlin Majere
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    Firestarter should have been a BLM spell. What I would like to see is a new thunder spell which upon thundercloud proc gives the option of using normal proc or holding down the button for a sec to release a thunder aoe .. shock and awe or something. On a side note steer clear of Mallow Vinx if you find yourselves grouped with him .. rolling need on caster gear for his low level alts in level 50 dungeons.
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