Black Mage Job Spells are disappointing.

[ihatevnecks]

You're already doing most of that as a THM though? What does the BLM add to the THM exactly?

THM brutalizes a boss (you're still using the same DPS spells you've had since THM aside from Flare)
THM burns adds
THM crowd controls
THM kites
THM can actually look quite good doing it, RF gear isn't the only good looking (or black) caster gear

So in the end BLM gets what.. the ability to take hits and aoe damage. Which kind of proves the point people are making in this thread that the ultimate destructo-job adds protection, not destruction.

[Enrix]

Not complaining too much because overall the class seems very solid, but I do feel that BLM is a bit underwhelming with all the utility spells. They could've just slapped those onto THM and gave BLM the procs like Thundercloud and Firestarter, and maybe throw in some more "Destructive" spells. I agree that it feels a bit rushed, but at least it's not as rushed as the Bard class .

[Callaren]

I think BLM in general is too awesome for this game to contain. Can't give us Ultima or Quake or Tornado or (etc.) because it's too OP and if they do they have the tone down the damage and if they do we'd complain that the spells suck and we'd be back to where we are now. :-(

[Jess_Spark]

Reading this thread has almost swayed me to change to another class...I am 25 THM 15 ARC nearly ready for my BLM transformation...but really? It's not high DPS and I can't utilize all of my 'stolen' spells from the arcanist class? What is the point of taking on a job if you can't customize the spells you want to use like you can before choosing a job...or am I misunderstanding what I've read here?

Please let me know a 'powerful' DPS job/class to play, as I was informed BLM is the best. I don't want slow killing. I want to squash mobs quickly.

[Strelnikov]

Nothing you earn feels conducive to making you feel like a better version of the Thaumatage. Some of the spells are outright worthless or have such an absurd recast time that it's insulting to even have them on your cast bar at all. While the Barrier Spell might be pretty useful in a PVP situation, it has zero utility in a raid, where you're going to spend most of your time out of harm's way.

Your Limit break is everything your class aspires to. Even Ifrit stopped and stared as half the meteors in the known universe came crashing down on his head.

I was impressed and I am no blm

[shinros]

I think BLM in general is too awesome for this game to contain. Can't give us Ultima or Quake or Tornado or (etc.) because it's too OP and if they do they have the tone down the damage and if they do we'd complain that the spells suck and we'd be back to where we are now. :-(

I think this is what happened actually I mean what else could they give us we already blow up stuff as it is and if we get ultima, quake etc the other classes would be jealous. XD

[Darkstride]

Not complaining too much because overall the class seems very solid, but I do feel that BLM is a bit underwhelming with all the utility spells. They could've just slapped those onto THM and gave BLM the procs like Thundercloud and Firestarter, and maybe throw in some more "Destructive" spells. I agree that it feels a bit rushed, but at least it's not as rushed as the Bard class .

The issue I have with BLM feeling "rushed" is that it already existed in 1.0 and it was just fine. They spent time making changes, like barriers, that are just a waste and don't fit BLM as a job. In 1.0 you could feel the difference between BLM and THM. Now the difference just has me scratching my head.

[Rbstr]

I wish there was a bit more death and destruction in the skillset up top. Either in some things that enable some "run and gun" like instants (make freeze instant ) or a buffed instacast or more glass-canon unleash the furry but don't get lovetapped by an add sort of things.

But I'm not completely sad to see some survivability. I feel like Manaward and Manawall should be merged somehow with passives instead of a second active

[Coephoros]

You're already doing most of that as a THM though? What does the BLM add to the THM exactly?

At level 50, it adds 20 INT, and 10 to the rest of your stats. Assuming you've dumped your stats into INT, that's almost an 8% increase in your magic attack power and a decent chunk of survivability.

If by "disappointing", folks mean "boring", I could understand the argument. If folks mean "ineffective", then I disagree vehemently.

BLM adds plenty to THM, and sacrifices very little. It adds punch to your destructiveness, more tools to your crowd control, and more survivability. It enhances every aspect of THM with a marginal hit to flexibility.

[Fengor]

If by "disappointing", folks mean "boring", I could understand the argument. If folks mean "ineffective", then I disagree vehemently.

I find that starting to call my character "Black Mage" only once they reach level 30 is a joke. I hit 30, did the required quests, and then sat there a little confused as I realized that nothing had actually changed. I was still the same boring Thaumaturge that I was for 30 levels, only now I had a purple rock that said I was a Black Mage. Whoopdie freaking doo. Why didn't you just call me that from the start and make sure there was actually something interesting waiting for me after 30 levels in this class and 15 in another?

(1k character limit reached, please see next post for continuation of train of thought)