what's with the morons on the market?

[Vanguard319]

And by the morons, I mean the people who have undercutted prices to BELOW the NPC value. Legionary Visors are selling on Hyperion for 98 gil. (they NPC for 102) Seriously, if your going to put items on the market, you can at least take enough time to pay attention to what the item vendors for, and if you aren't going to sell stuff for at least the npc value, you might as well vendor it. Otherwise, you're flooding the market and depreciating everything on it.

[koriandrr]

On Phoenix, every material sells for 1gil.
I think people are used to WoW, where when you add something to the auction house it automatically went to the lowest price on the (player) market. Here it automatically goes to the price it sells for to an NPC.
It messes up the economy greatly. Maybe it's worth considering making it more like WoW, if that will help lazy people.

[Rakashu]

So you would rather have some one trash an item as opposed to offering it to the community for a reduced price thus helping out the community that needs that item at large?

Or are you just upset people keep undercutting you?

[Somi]

eh, they'll figure it out, right...right?! Otherwise... cheap items for the buyers, yay.

[Neri]

Umm, if you know the price of the NPC and if it is higher than what is sold at the market board, why not just pull it off the market board and sell it to NPC though? You've got nothing to lose here, you even earn some gils.

[Weiss_R]

So you would rather have some one trash an item as opposed to offering it to the community for a reduced price thus helping out the community that needs that item at large?

Or are you just upset people keep undercutting you?

This is not communism or a charity, i sell items to make money and put the items on the AH for its market value. If the market value is less than the NPC value then i will NPC it until "scarcity" causes the price to raise to something reasonable.
If you are my friend or my FC mate then i'll give you the item if you need it, if you are some random guy you have to pay =).

[Vanguard319]

So you would rather have some one trash an item as opposed to offering it to the community for a reduced price thus helping out the community that needs that item at large?

Or are you just upset people keep undercutting you?

It goes beyond undercutting, it's destroying the economy before it can even develop.

[Lego3400]

On Phoenix, every material sells for 1gil.
I think people are used to WoW, where when you add something to the auction house it automatically went to the lowest price on the (player) market. Here it automatically goes to the price it sells for to an NPC.
It messes up the economy greatly. Maybe it's worth considering making it more like WoW, if that will help lazy people.

Actully wow doesn't do that. By default it lists no price. You're thinking of the awesome addon Auctioneer.

[Vydos]

Actually what bothers me the most is when people put equipment on the Market Ward. That can be bought from npc, at a much higher price that the npc is vendoring it for. Either put a HQ of it or sell it for less than the npc. I'm not paying for something that I can get for cheaper from a vendor.

[Vanguard319]

Umm, if you know the price of the NPC and if it is higher than what is sold at the market board, why not just pull it off the market board and sell it to NPC though? You've got nothing to lose here, you even earn some gils.

That's what I've been doing, but my point is that the economy is getting wrecked because it's forcing everyone else to either give away their goods, or have their retainers sit on the market with goods that can't be sold. It's unfair for new players as they can't make any money on the market. It's also unfair for high level crafters, who have to sell at a loss because the players buying their goods can't otherwise afford them.