Not being able to buy single items from a stack on the marketward.

[IveraIvalice]

Who says I'm selling in 99s? So far I haven't really had to wait more than 2 days for anything to sell (heck, some are moving in hours and those were stacks of 99), so yeah... You can keep throwing your hyperbolic ideas of how long it takes items to sell just because you're not buying it, and I'll keep selling it in no time at all without you.

Having a market where individual items have varying values based on quantity is still better for me. Having a market where people can't slowly pick away at my stacks is still better for me. The only downside you people seem to come up with is that stuff wont sell fast enough, which so far is an out right fabrication, in my experience, so good luck convincing me otherwise.

The current system rewards smart sellers, the old one simply did not. You know what problem buyers have at the moment? That the game is just out the gates and the economy hasn't really become stable yet (if anything has slowed my sales rates, it has been rampant price fluctuations). That's it. There is no fault with the current system, just more impatience from the Final Fantasy XIV forum community. You can't buy items at the price/stack size you want yet? Do tell me more about that while some people still can't even log into the damn game.

The down side is very simple, it's not convenient. The average buyer just wants to buy something because its quick, Lot quicker the going out and getting it yourself. But also the average buyer doesn't have a ton of cash to throw around. Remember the game is geared more towards the casual community.

Having the system that we have now means a lot of casual players won't want to buy anything because they simply don't have enough money. No one goes up to the marks saying, "cool I need 4 electrum ore but the smallest amount is a stack of 10. He'll yeah! I love buying 6 more ore then I need "

no most people will either sucking up and buy it or walk away. Kuz when you think about it, if I need 4 ore, at best I can craft whatever I'm trying to craft twice and then have 2 left over that I can't to anything with. So while your inventory is sparkely clean, mine is full of crap that I don't need. And knowing that's gonna happen, I'm not buying.

So it doesn't matter if my money is the only money on the market, clearly I'm not the only buyer, but don't active I'm the only one with this mindset. Any amount of people refusing to buy because its inconvenient for them is money lost to sellers.

[TheRealBob]

The market should take care of this; as time goes on people will start selling smaller stacks for slightly higher per-item prices. Most people (myself included) are willing to pay a bit extra to get the items in a quantity we want. Heck, if you can't find anyone doing it already, do it yourself and make a killing!

This definitely isn't something that needs to be changed from a software perspective.

[Jinko]

The market should take care of this; as time goes on people will start selling smaller stacks for slightly higher per-item prices. Most people (myself included) are willing to pay a bit extra to get the items in a quantity we want. Heck, if you can't find anyone doing it already, do it yourself and make a killing!

This definitely isn't something that needs to be changed from a software perspective.

People keep saying this but I actually see the opposite happening on Excalibur.

Things like logs and ore are being sold in stacks of 99 now this is fine if you are levelling a craft and need a large quantity but if you only want to make 1 or 2 items you don't want a whole stack.

I don't see this getting any better tbh, clearly a lot of people don't care about the buyer, some of the comments in this thread is proof enough of that.

[TheRealBob]

People keep saying this but I actually see the opposite happening on Excalibur.

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Point well taken, although I think it's still early to make any clear decisions on the matter.

I was attempting to point out that this should go away with time as sellers realize that there is a market (and potentially more profitable one) in selling smaller stacks of items. If anything, perhaps increasing the number of items one can have up for sale at a single time would help alleviate this (I'm assuming that's the problem since I haven't played around with the market much yet). I imagine as the number of people leveling like mad dies down, the stack sizes people are willing, or able, to sell will trend smaller.

Like I mentioned earlier, sounds like there could potentially be a lot of gil to be made by selling smaller stacks--why not exploit the market yourself before things get more competitive?

[Besamel]

I don't see this getting any better tbh, clearly a lot of people don't care about the buyer, some of the comments in this thread is proof enough of that.

I've defended the way it is because I believe that the seller should be making a decision about how they use the market. i.e. not to disadvantage the buyer, but to ensure that the seller has some control and is not disadvantaged. As some have said, they sell singles for slightly higher prices and discount for bulk. That kind of dynamic can't exist when people can pick out what they want from stacks at the discounted price. It would actually result in singles disappearing from the market.

Sellers need to be smart about their wares and learn what products will sell in quantity, what will only sell in singles e.t.c. I expect that this will mature over time.

Everyone posting here buys things from the market as well.

[Sotek]

So it doesn't matter if my money is the only money on the market, clearly I'm not the only buyer, but don't active I'm the only one with this mindset. Any amount of people refusing to buy because its inconvenient for them is money lost to sellers.

I'm not acting like you're the only one with this mindset, I'm saying all of you fools are inconsequential because like I said; items are still moving quickly without all of you. For that matter, items are still moving quickly without all the buyers who are 1017'ing.

Money lost is not an inconvenience for me, the seller, because I've not lost any money selling, because everything has still been selling, usually within hours. Even when if I do end up waiting for something to sell, you know what that means? Not "Oh this market system sucks", it means "I better change my approach" because that is how any games market works. If you were picking what you need off a stack, I'd only have one sales option for anything, and so would all my competition, and that just leads to rampant undercutting which is not convenient for me. Give the damn system some time, like I said, some people can't even log in yet, and you're expecting a stable and convenient market? I can do nothing but laugh at that notion, sorry. A lot of sellers simply haven't learned what quantities move best yet, a lot more sellers are still trying to profit off buyers impatience.

Having only one sales option is nothing but an inconvenience for the seller. You're never going to convince me otherwise. If you could pick off what you need, instead of outsmarting them with a better price/quantity set up, I'd be stuck undercutting my competition, and being undercut by my competition. That is how I'd be losing money, not by having a handful of you rage level your Disciples of Land.