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  1. #141
    Player
    Avorniel's Avatar
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    Petra Lesrekta
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 75
    I for one was very surprised that there was not filter added into the game to counter Gil sellers,considering it is normal now for them to appear in all new mmo's and 100 of thousands of players have complained about this for over 10+ years (could be more but my main mmo experience is only around 13 years but never saw it in UO).

    As for players miss clicking to blacklist the wrong person it happens,it's human nature to make mistakes,it doesn't mean you shouldn't of not added in a counter system...

    But am happy that you are now looking at the issue..better late than never I guess
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  2. #142
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    Laraul's Avatar
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    Laraul Lunacy
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    The only way to mass-communicate to large groups of players is with /shouts. There are no chat channels for communication. There should be. Limiting players to level 5+ for /shouts would help. But there are no chat channels for new players to fall back on.
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    Last edited by Laraul; 09-04-2013 at 05:01 PM.

  3. #143
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    Synthesis's Avatar
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    Green Green
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 20
    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval View Post
    Not going to lie, this is dumb beyond belief. You are literally saying players are too stupid to right click on someones name and add them to an ignore list without accidently ignoring their friends/innocent strangers.
    I am enough stupid to do that. I could missclick easily when right click member and browse from menu like invite to party, add as friend, blacklist, othe stuff...
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  4. #144
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    Mjollnir's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Fiery Mojo
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Why can't this system be automated?

    Once a user has been blacklisted by, say, 200 people (number pulled out of the air), all characters on their account (or SE-ID) can no longer talk - eg no /say, /tell, /shout and whatever else. A message pops up on their screen telling them so and to contact a GM to start an investigation to have their character unblocked. Gilsellers wouldn't be able to do so, and in the unlikely event this is used to grief a player, a GM could restore their rights. Importantly, it doesn't stop them from playing the game and doesn't stop their subscription.

    This way you could not only block gilsellers from talking, but abusive and racist players too.

    You could go an extra length for peace of mind and have a /block function and a /blacklist function - the /blacklist doing what was mentioned above (essentially an auto-report tool) and the /block just for people you personally dislike or find annoying and don't want to hear, even if they've not actually done anything wrong. Both functions would have the same effect from your point of view, just the blacklist would add to user-regulation of improper play.
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  5. #145
    Player
    Moth's Avatar
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    Taiga Inktooth
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I have not seen one rmt on Hyperion, but I have seen a lot of trolls and shout spammers, so I am all for an easier way to blacklist people.
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  6. #146
    Player Rose_Vilehart's Avatar
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    Rose Vilehart
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    Odin
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    So....no help against gil sellers?.......great.
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  7. #147
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    BuffaloMagi's Avatar
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    Miyu Mercluna
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by DezyRavioli View Post
    I personally feel it's a great burden to send in a report. How many reports will you receive before action is taken? And by that point, will it even matter if we send in one by then?
    I agree that sending in a report is a pain. I actually did this the first time I saw spam, but there were so many fields to fill in I decided not to do it again. If I remember correctly there were fields for things like "server" and "zone". Shouldn't the game be able to automatically figure those things out? Obviously the best option is having a right-click "Report" feature like other games, preferably one where the offensive text (last X lines or something) is automatically pulled from the server and submitted with the report. I think most people are happy to comply with helping report these kind of people, but when it is difficult to motivate people to do it when it distracts you from your play experience just to send a report.
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  8. #148
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    Tari-F's Avatar
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    Tari Falhs
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    Diabolos
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    Why can't this system be automated?

    Once a user has been blacklisted by, say, 200 people (number pulled out of the air), all characters on their account (or SE-ID) can no longer talk - eg no /say, /tell, /shout and whatever else. A message pops up on their screen telling them so and to contact a GM to start an investigation to have their character unblocked. Gilsellers wouldn't be able to do so, and in the unlikely event this is used to grief a player, a GM could restore their rights. Importantly, it doesn't stop them from playing the game and doesn't stop their subscription.

    This way you could not only block gilsellers from talking, but abusive and racist players too.

    [snip].
    This is a pretty interesting idea. If the GMs are quick to respond to players who get message-blocked, I think it would actually work fairly well.

    I'm sure someone will think of a downside to it, but I'm drawing blanks at the moment.
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  9. #149
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    Milmoko_Gemoko's Avatar
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    Milmoko Gemoko
    World
    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    We apologize for those of you who have experienced real money traders spamming gil selling advertisements. We are in the midst of addressing this and appreciate your patience during this time.

    As there have also been requests for an "Add to blacklist" option when selecting someone's name from the chat log, we would like to look into addressing this as well; however, this opens up the possibility of accidentally blacklisting people by misclicking etc., so we'd like to take the time to look into this carefully.

    In the mean time, we would appreciate it greatly if you could report these violators through the in-game Support Desk feature where they will be handled as soon as possible, as Senior Game Master Jhanaka has mentioned below:
    YAY!
    Yeah a black list option from chatbox would be nice, maybe map it to the subcommands when you highlight a name and press SQUARE button like with the other things - oh PS3 player here lol.

    There was a Gil Seller driving me nuts on Phoenix [EU] World on Monday morning, he/it was spamming general chat and sending me "tells" every couple mins - I have a screen shot somewhere if it saved properly.
    But looks like you or someone at SE smited his ass as I played on Phoenix and Ultros yesterday without any Gill Sellers spamming the place up
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    Last edited by Milmoko_Gemoko; 09-04-2013 at 05:51 PM. Reason: character limit - please increase that!

  10. #150
    Player
    Jinko's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Jinko Jinko
    World
    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Its ironic that you would go to the extreme of limiting the mail system to friends only and the various restrictions on the marketwards yet left this hole gapping wide open.

    You saw the effects of RMT in 1.0 just like everyone who played it, so why weren't you prepared for this, a simple report feature is common sense I would have though.

    Agree with other people regarding the accidentally adding to blacklist, if you have a pop up box to confirm it shouldn't be an issue, its not like we can't unblock someone anyway.
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