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  1. #11
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    Burritoboy's Avatar
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    Oni Darklight
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    I see nothing wrong with skipping trash mobs. Now if there was an exploit on a boss I would like them to immediately fix that
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  2. #12
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    Tirion Crey
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    Yeah that's bullshit. No one will be banned for using sacrifice pulls. It was done in FFXI all the time.
    Other than that, I can only confirm the discussion. Amdapor Keep is the way to go if your group knows what it's doing. 20min runs are really not a problem.

    If you wanna do other stuff though for Tomes. The Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium both give 100 Tomes every clear, not just for the first time. Dungeons like Darkhold or Aurum Vale are a waste of time for Tomes.
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  3. #13
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    Plan Adroit
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    Do it at your own risk. I have seen mass perma-bans for doing less than this in other games.
    Not seeing how this is an exploit. Mobs leash based on independent aggro tables by game design. Maybe the intention was the entire instance should be cleared, but this is no exploit as that's how every other mobs in the entire game functions. If they don't like it they can change it to add the entire party to the aggro table for dungeon/raids.

    Worked like this in FFXI and they didn't care then. If anything it rewards parties that are more coordinated.
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    I punch stuff.

  4. #14
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    MrEzekial's Avatar
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    Ezekial Ine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    No its an exploit.


    You can pull the mobs with the tank while everyone esle runs through, once you all get to the boss the tank dies and gets a res. Rinse and repeat.

    That's not an exploit, you're not doing anything outside of the game mechanics.
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  5. #15
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    Sol Rising
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    No its an exploit.


    You can pull the mobs with the tank while everyone esle runs through, once you all get to the boss the tank dies and gets a res. Rinse and repeat.
    This guy Ruprect thinks he knows everything guys. Just look at his previous posts, and how easily he starts to attack people with different views and opinions. So apparently he claims SE will ban people for not fighting all linked mobs in a dungeon and claims it's an exploit...

    Like others have stated already, if the game was intended to have you fight all the mobs then a door would be shut before you cleared the mobs.
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  6. #16
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    Amdapor Keep is amazing if you have people running with you from FC or friends, PUGs are terrible, most PUGs i've been in are so bad and undergeared, it wasn't even funny.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolRising View Post
    This guy Ruprect thinks he knows everything guys. Just look at his previous posts, and how easily he starts to attack people with different views and opinions. So apparently he claims SE will ban people for not fighting all linked mobs in a dungeon and claims it's an exploit...

    Like others have stated already, if the game was intended to have you fight all the mobs then a door would be shut before you cleared the mobs.
    How things look through the mind of a child.

    I was a bit rash about the perma ban, but it is an obvious exploit. Do you really think the designers sat down and designed the dungeon this way? Sol, you seem pretty confident that everything in game is the way it should be with no mistakes.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    How things look through the mind of a child.

    I was a bit rash about the perma ban, but it is an obvious exploit. Do you really think the designers sat down and designed the dungeon this way? Sol, you seem pretty confident that everything in game is the way it should be with no mistakes.
    So you speak on behalf of SE?

    Where does it say anywhere that avoiding adds/mobs in a dungeon is a exploit? So if a party avoids killing one mob in a dungeon they are now considered exploiting as well? You don't speak on behalf of SE, give me any statement given from SE that claims people are not to avoid any single mob in a dungeon and must clear every last one of them.

    Do I believe the game designers made it possible to avoid fighting a monster in a dungeon? Yes. If they did not it's pretty simple to create a barrier until all mobs are cleared. Much like you can not exit a Boss fight once it begins. You think SE has never made video games before to design something so simple, when they perfectly designed the opposite effect in game(Can not run away from a Boss Arena once it begins, or unable to enter once the fight begins).

    You don't even know me and you yet you go all offensive claiming I'm a "child". Keep your behavior because it speaks volume. Anyone can clearly see who is more mature.
    Just believe whatever you like Ruprect because you seem to know everything, in your eyes only.
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    Last edited by SolRising; 09-04-2013 at 12:30 PM.

  9. #19
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagalli View Post
    Amdapor Keep is amazing if you have people running with you from FC or friends, PUGs are terrible, most PUGs i've been in are so bad and undergeared, it wasn't even funny.
    undergearedl like what? AF and ilvl 49 whites?

    oh guess what ampdor is for? gearing new 50s......

    u sure need full ilvl70 gear to run ilvl55 content? come on...lol

    i finished ampdor a dozen of times , and i started full AF with whites... now i got some drops (and tomorrow the darklight robe ,120 tomes to go!) , but is DOABLE to do ampdor with full af gear and whites , i was scared , ppl told me noooo!!! farm the tomberry dungeon for drops....i did got 2 items , and tried ampdor....piece of cake if u know how bosses work, the wall with a MNK/LNC LB is a joke. w/o is harder but doable, yes there are some DPS checks , but with good cooldown usage , u are gold.

    knowing the boss > gear

    all the gear in the world wont save u from getting pushed down in the wall boss :P
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  10. #20
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolRising View Post
    So you speak on behalf of SE?

    Where does it say anywhere that avoiding adds/mobs in a dungeon is a exploit? So if a party avoids killing one mob in a dungeon they are now considered exploiting as well? You don't speak on behalf of SE, give me any statement given from SE that claims people are not to avoid any single mob in a dungeon and must clear every last one of them.
    You don't even know me and you yet you go all offensive claiming I'm a "child". Keep your behavior because it speaks volume. Anyone can clearly see who is more mature.
    Just believe whatever you like Ruprect because you seem to know everything, in your eyes only.
    This is obviously seen as a problem:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...T-Amdapor-Keep
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...T-Amdapor-Keep

    Where anywhere to I claim that anything I say is fact and that I am speaking for SE. I am stating my opinion. I have my opinion you have yours. I never had any issues with you until you came into the other thread stating that because one scholar you were with was able to finish the dungeon that it must be a L2P issue. That whole thread was nothing but a simple discussion about whether it was a bug or intended. We were all stating opinions.
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    Last edited by Ruprect; 09-04-2013 at 12:37 PM.

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