Best way to farm tome?

[SolRising]

No its an exploit.


You can pull the mobs with the tank while everyone esle runs through, once you all get to the boss the tank dies and gets a res. Rinse and repeat.

This guy Ruprect thinks he knows everything guys. Just look at his previous posts, and how easily he starts to attack people with different views and opinions. So apparently he claims SE will ban people for not fighting all linked mobs in a dungeon and claims it's an exploit...

Like others have stated already, if the game was intended to have you fight all the mobs then a door would be shut before you cleared the mobs.

[Ruprect]

This guy Ruprect thinks he knows everything guys. Just look at his previous posts, and how easily he starts to attack people with different views and opinions. So apparently he claims SE will ban people for not fighting all linked mobs in a dungeon and claims it's an exploit...

Like others have stated already, if the game was intended to have you fight all the mobs then a door would be shut before you cleared the mobs.

How things look through the mind of a child.

I was a bit rash about the perma ban, but it is an obvious exploit. Do you really think the designers sat down and designed the dungeon this way? Sol, you seem pretty confident that everything in game is the way it should be with no mistakes.

[SolRising]

How things look through the mind of a child.

I was a bit rash about the perma ban, but it is an obvious exploit. Do you really think the designers sat down and designed the dungeon this way? Sol, you seem pretty confident that everything in game is the way it should be with no mistakes.

So you speak on behalf of SE?

Where does it say anywhere that avoiding adds/mobs in a dungeon is a exploit? So if a party avoids killing one mob in a dungeon they are now considered exploiting as well? You don't speak on behalf of SE, give me any statement given from SE that claims people are not to avoid any single mob in a dungeon and must clear every last one of them.

Do I believe the game designers made it possible to avoid fighting a monster in a dungeon? Yes. If they did not it's pretty simple to create a barrier until all mobs are cleared. Much like you can not exit a Boss fight once it begins. You think SE has never made video games before to design something so simple, when they perfectly designed the opposite effect in game(Can not run away from a Boss Arena once it begins, or unable to enter once the fight begins).

You don't even know me and you yet you go all offensive claiming I'm a "child". Keep your behavior because it speaks volume. Anyone can clearly see who is more mature.
Just believe whatever you like Ruprect because you seem to know everything, in your eyes only.

[Ruprect]

So you speak on behalf of SE?

Where does it say anywhere that avoiding adds/mobs in a dungeon is a exploit? So if a party avoids killing one mob in a dungeon they are now considered exploiting as well? You don't speak on behalf of SE, give me any statement given from SE that claims people are not to avoid any single mob in a dungeon and must clear every last one of them.
You don't even know me and you yet you go all offensive claiming I'm a "child". Keep your behavior because it speaks volume. Anyone can clearly see who is more mature.
Just believe whatever you like Ruprect because you seem to know everything, in your eyes only.

This is obviously seen as a problem:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...T-Amdapor-Keep
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...T-Amdapor-Keep

Where anywhere to I claim that anything I say is fact and that I am speaking for SE. I am stating my opinion. I have my opinion you have yours. I never had any issues with you until you came into the other thread stating that because one scholar you were with was able to finish the dungeon that it must be a L2P issue. That whole thread was nothing but a simple discussion about whether it was a bug or intended. We were all stating opinions.

[SolRising]

Sigh fanboi's.

This is obviously seen as a problem:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...T-Amdapor-Keep
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...T-Amdapor-Keep

Fanboy? You do realize you are able to avoid mobs throughout multiple dungeons in the game?

You believe it's an exploit because someone else had posted assuming it was a exploit to avoid fighting adds..? I am tired of repeating myself. Do us all a favor, report in the bug section or submit a ticket if you so believe it is an exploit to avoid any mob in every single dungeon.

Please just stop trying to speak on behalf of SE. No you are not their representative. Until you have facts posted from SE that stats otherwise, you are just making yourself look more foolish.

[Ruprect]

Fanboy? You do realize you are able to avoid mobs throughout multiple dungeons in the game?

You believe it's an exploit because someone else had posted assuming it was a exploit to avoid fighting adds..? I am tired of repeating myself. Do us all a favor, report in the bug section or submit a ticket if you so believe it is an exploit to avoid any mob in every single dungeon.

Please just stop trying to speak on behalf of SE. No you are not their representative. Until you have facts posted from SE that stats otherwise, you are just making yourself look more foolish.

Like I said in my edited post, I am simply stating my opinion and discussing it with others. I am not sure why you are so worked up. I understand being able to avoid some mobs, that isn't a problem and most likely intended. When you can clear an entire dungeon without killing a single trash mob, that to me seem like an exploit. I also removed the fanboi part in an effort to start a sensible debate.

[Zodiark]

How things look through the mind of a child.

I was a bit rash about the perma ban, but it is an obvious exploit. Do you really think the designers sat down and designed the dungeon this way? Sol, you seem pretty confident that everything in game is the way it should be with no mistakes.

Did you ever play FFXI? If you did you wouldn't be talking. It was a common practice then and is now, designed to be optional.

[Ruprect]

Did you ever play FFXI? If you did you wouldn't be talking. It was a common practice then and is now, designed to be optional.

I was not aware of that. What is the point of the trash mobs then? I could be completely wrong, I am simply going on what I know and in most MMO's would be considered an exploit to be able to clear an entire dungeon without killing a single mob. If this is intended then so be it. I don't have a problem with skipping trash if it is intended.

[Zodiark]

I was not aware of that. What is the point of the trash mobs then? I could be completely wrong, I am simply going on what I know and in most MMO's would be considered an exploit to be able to clear an entire dungeon without killing a single mob. If this is intended then so be it. I don't have a problem with skipping trash if it is intended.

It isn't "intended" its optional. You can fight through them all if you want, there is loot to be had throughout the dungeon by doing so if I recall correctly. People skip not to beat the timer stuff, but to farm tomes as best as they can as fast as they can.

Not to mention, the dungeon is a gear check for most people. Not everyone passes it easily. If you don't have good enough gear or tactics, you won't win and will need to go back and forth dodging the trash repeatedly which I have seen happen multiple times.

[Ruprect]

It isn't "intended" its optional. You can fight through them all if you want, there is loot to be had throughout the dungeon by doing so if I recall correctly. People skip not to beat the timer stuff, but to farm tomes as best as they can as fast as they can.

Not to mention, the dungeon is a gear check for most people. Not everyone passes it easily. If you don't have good enough gear or tactics, you won't win and will need to go back and forth dodging the trash repeatedly which I have seen happen multiple times.

I understand the point I have just never heard of optional trash mobs for an entire dungeon lol. I was wrong then, if this was the norm in FFXI I guess it would be safe to assume this is not an exploit then and all trash mobs are optional. Good to know thanks for the info.