Heals for Scholors need a buff

[Firon]

I think Succor should give x2 the shield it heals for making it a good AoE or if you cast succor x2 it will use the remain shield and convert that into hp.

[sharazisspecial]

I think Succor should give x2 the shield it heals for making it a good AoE or if you cast succor x2 it will use the remain shield and convert that into hp.

The 2nd part would help alot when you have 2 sch since they penalize each other in many ways . But two whm can stack their regens and medica 2 .

[Maku]

I would love if you could stack the shield from Succor so you could prep for an AoE ahead of time with like two or three casts of Succor2. The mp cost is already high so I don't think this would be THAT OP. Maybe slightly higher MP cost would be needed but I would LOVE THIS. It would make it so WHMs can recover from an AoE (faster and more efficiently) but SCHs can prep for one (thus enhancing out "tactician" style of play). DO THIS!!!!!!!

[Rainsford]

Selene has the games only Haste spell. Faerie heals are powerful, especially with Rouse up. Crit shields are extremely powerful. Virtually unlimited MP. Tons of mitigation skills. DPS that can get in the same ballpark of a standard DPS, especially if you're micro-minded enough to switch Cleric Stance when applying dots. What else do you want?

SCH has way more potential than a WHM. A good SCH can put out respectable damage, keep a boss debuffed, keep your party Hasted, while keeping the group topped off just as well as a WHM. AOE healing can be trickier if you're caught unprepared for it, and keeping track of your pet/debuffs/Aetherflows can be overwhelming, but I personally find it exciting to play a healer class that can let you take such an active role in a fight and show real results for it.

[sharazisspecial]

Selene has the games only Haste spell. Faerie heals are powerful, especially with Rouse up. Crit shields are extremely powerful. Virtually unlimited MP. Tons of mitigation skills. DPS that can get in the same ballpark of a standard DPS, especially if you're micro-minded enough to switch Cleric Stance when applying dots. What else do you want?

SCH has way more potential than a WHM. A good SCH can put out respectable damage, keep a boss debuffed, keep your party Hasted, while keeping the group topped off just as well as a WHM. AOE healing can be trickier if you're caught unprepared for it, and keeping track of your pet/debuffs/Aetherflows can be overwhelming, but I personally find it exciting to play a healer class that can let you take such an active role in a fight and show real results for it.

I want them to fix the broken pet and controls. Selene overwrites her own spells and gives the boss silence resist. Eos non embrace spells are practically unusable since she use whenever she can. When you make them embrace a target they reset commands. They die too easily as well.

2ndly the haste is not as strong as it reads. It shaves of .12sec of my heal so it must not be exactly 30%. Also Sch is lowest dps job by a large margain fyi. Someone parsed it as being 40% lower then whm
Sch is also not good at quickly aoeing adds like whm can with holy.

[Tersia]

Maybe just me but I feel a good fix to pet ai, for ALL pets, would be something like gambits from FF12. A series of if>then commands that you can prioritize, but less slots than that game had so it isn't just like, autopilot, that would be too easy and thus a poor decision.

Succor's absorb component should be a different buff from adloquium, so that the two can stack. And a bit of a cd reduction/potency increase for whispering dawn.

edit- I think the spell haste/skill haste means 30% of your stat called casting speed, not 30% of the spell's base cast times. Totally different animal.

[Delitia]

I'm just going to leave one note here: Take a look through this entire thread and other similar "buff scholar" threads (which the class doesn't need, neither does white mage (it just needs less rng reliance for mp upkeep on LONG fights) and "fixing" ai on the fairies would lead to the class undoubtedly being brokenly overpowered especially if able to command it whilst casting) every single post asking for buffs and fixes are from the same 5 or so people, you're a vocal minority, not a majority, ergo, learn to play issue, not a class issue.

[Quinceiy]

I have been following the Scholar forums and threads for a while now. I havent said anything until I was higher level. Now at 42 couple things I would like to state.
I don't think they need a Buff so to say. Only part that needs some fixing is the pets and thier macros.

1) We DONT need to be able to tell our pet who to heal while we are in mid cast. That is just out right OP.
How ever we do have the ability if you hot bar the pets heal to tell them who to heal before you cast your own heal.
I do this all the time I tell pet to heal tank then I cast Adloquium on the tank..
What ends up happening is Succor goes off before Pets heal so he has a shield to stop health from going down then he gets the heal from the pet.

(tip) tell you pet to heal 1 target while you heal another is very Mp friendly and efficient dont depend on your pet healing the right person.

[Quinceiy]

(2) Our Aoe healing is ok..it is not the best but it is ok. Fixing Pet Ui and able to control Whispering Dawn more would help this a lot. So when casted with Sucor this is a powerful AOE heal combo when raid is needed.
(tip 2) In a raid we complement White mages very well, if you are (smart) you know aoe is going to happen pre bubble then cast it again after.
(tip 3) If Aoe is going to happen pre bubble * then Damage happens cast Rouse, Fey Illumination, Then Whispering Dawn. ( Can someone say OP hots) Or even cast Fey Illumination before your pre-bubble Stronger Bubble.

(3) Yes we spam out basic heal alot..but it is all about knows good rotations...tank is getting low I always tell pet to heal ..Cast Adloquium, tell pet to heal again, cast cure if your tank is not full health from that he should be really close to it or he is standing in to much

(added) I would like to see whispering Dawns Range increase unless I am always placing my pet it is hard to make sure most of the group gets it even then on spread out hard to control it

[Quinceiy]

(Tip) cast a second Adloquium at the end to give tank or dps a bubble to protect from next incoming damage

Summary. If pet macros and Ai work properly as in no more spamming all CD when off CD then scholars will be a great spot. I really think it will take more time before we can truly say if it needs a buff or nerf.
And really cant compare to White mage. Different class and way different play style.. Scholar I find is a more active (know the fight) class.

If you cant multi task or want a simple healing class Scholar is not for you. Spend time play with different cooldown rotations.
This class has a lot of theory behind it and will take time for people to figure it all out.

Final tip Control you pet..yes they may use their cd but if you active and can handle it key-bind Steady and use after each spell is used helps a decent amount for now

I am not the greatest healer and there is no number crunching in my post just off of what I have experience.